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Do lifters need oil to measure pushrods?

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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 10:51 PM
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Do lifters need oil to measure pushrods?

Do hydraulic lifters need to be filled with oil before I can properly measure pushrod length? I submerged them all be for I installed them and then poured more oil on top before I rotated the motor. With the rocker arm installed will this give me the proper readings? I am having one hell of a time trying to find the right pushrod length. How long can this take?
Old Aug 10, 2005 | 01:39 AM
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Re: Do lifters need oil to measure pushrods?

Get yourself a length checking pushrod, or make one(extendable)

You cant have any plunger travel in the lifter to correctly measure geometry....in flat tappet world we would throw a solid in there and measure it that way, but you will have to gut the lifter and turn it into a solid for checking purposes...
Old Aug 10, 2005 | 03:39 AM
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Re: Do lifters need oil to measure pushrods?

As said above, the most important thing is not to put any pre-load into the lifter as it will skew your measurement.

Adjustable length checkers are the only sure fire way to get a proper measurement.
Old Aug 10, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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Re: Do lifters need oil to measure pushrods?

What do you mean "gut the lifter" as in take it apart and then it won't move??? I am a bit confused. Is there no way to fill it with enough oil to keep it from moving?
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 10:34 AM
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Re: Do lifters need oil to measure pushrods?

Originally Posted by MachinistOne
Get yourself a length checking pushrod, or make one(extendable)

You cant have any plunger travel in the lifter to correctly measure geometry....in flat tappet world we would throw a solid in there and measure it that way, but you will have to gut the lifter and turn it into a solid for checking purposes...
Can you tell me how to gut the lifter and make it solid? I would love to get the measurments today so i can order monday but i don't know what needs to be done to make a solid lifter.
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 10:43 AM
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Re: Do lifters need oil to measure pushrods?

when i installed my lifters, i soaked them in oil overnight, then installed them, no problems so far.
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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Re: Do lifters need oil to measure pushrods?

To make a solid, remove the internals, remove the spring from the assembly, flip the plunger over and reinstall. You may need to trash the plunger by way of a little grinding to make everything fit right. Haven't tried this with a stock LT1 lifter, so I don't know if the grinding is necessary or not.

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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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Re: Do lifters need oil to measure pushrods?

Ok i found a thread from a long time ago about gutting an old lifter and cuting a bolt to lenght so that the cap just fit back in. i did that and it seemed to work well.
Only problem now is that i can't see a difference between a 7.25" and a 7.30" pushrod.They both seem to wear the ink right off the middle of the valve. the stock 7.20" i could tell was too short. Any ideas on which size to use?
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 10:40 PM
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Re: Do lifters need oil to measure pushrods?

I used a light weight checker spring in place of one of the valve springs. Mine was a toss up between 7.1 and 7.2 so I went with 7.15.
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