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cc503 cam with 1.6 or 1.7

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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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cc503 cam with 1.6 or 1.7

Is there going to be much of a difference with them. The car is only driven during the summer and sees the track 3 or 4 times a year. I have stock heads and im getting 3.73 for gears.
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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The difference will be that running the 1.7s will create some major headaches with the setup due to issues with the valvetrain geometry. I would just stick with the 1.6s and call it a day.
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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agreed I think if your worried about 1.7, then you need to just go custom cam to your specs. Like said it puts more stress on areas, that you could just avoid by getting a little bigger lift on a custom.
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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Hey Dave1980 do you have any dyno numbers or track times with your setup?? I'll be running almost the same exact setup.
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000GTP
The difference will be that running the 1.7s will create some major headaches with the setup due to issues with the valvetrain geometry.

That's an interesting theory. Care to point us to a post where somebody had "major headaches with the setup due to issues with the valvetrain geometry" using 1.7s on a 503 or a similar cam?


A hint - you won't find any.
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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well im interested since im running 1.7's and i would like a cam .. and a 503 was what i was looking at as well ..
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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I don't recall of hearing anyone getting "major headaches" using 1.7 RRs and the CC 503. Having said that, if anyone wants to do it, then I say go for it and let us know if you have any headaches. That way we'll all benefit from someone else falling on the grenade.JMHO
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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Maybe the "major" was a bit overused on my part, but I'm sure you are going to have to go through some extra consideration and planning when doing that setup due to the higher lifts. A little extra planning will be in order when choosing pushrods, springs, and there may even the possible issue with a valve contacting a piston. You may have to do the "clay method" just to make sure that the valves don't touch the pistons at all. I couldn't tell you for sure as I haven't heard of anyone running the CC503 cam with the 1.7RRs, then again, I haven't seen one here with aftermarket mild heads/cam setups and 1.7RRs, I wonder why? Maybe if someone has such a setup, then can post up their experiences and details.
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 12:41 AM
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I don't see much of anyone running 1.7rr's with anything outside solid roller, there must be good reason for it.

not sure how the additional lift will affect piston to valve clearance...
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 87bandit
I don't see much of anyone running 1.7rr's with anything outside solid roller, there must be good reason for it.

not sure how the additional lift will affect piston to valve clearance...
there are quite a few 1.7 rr,stock and aftermarket cams
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 06:49 AM
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in a ls series motors u will see 1.7 in stock or aftermarket a lot not gen 1 or gen 2 due to clearence issues
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 96m6lt1
there are quite a few 1.7 rr,stock and aftermarket cams
If there are quite a few, could you lead me to at least one or two? I'd like to learn more about this. With that said, and without knowing more about 1.7 on any LTx cam, I would play it safe and follow the masses, (1.6) rockers.
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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when it comes to things like valvetrain clearance I'd rather play it safe
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Z-RATED94
If there are quite a few, could you lead me to at least one or two?
There are plenty of people with 1.7 on stock and mild to moderate cams (up to about hotcam/503 territory). Hard to search for on this board since it won't take "1.7" as a search term.

A couple that I found right away:

http://camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=422491

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showp...19&postcount=4

http://www.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180122



You can also find plenty of people on other LT1 forums with 1.7s. Here's one I have bookmarked:

http://www.wku.edu/~nathan.plemons/h..._corvette.html


There have been a few people with 1.8s on stock cams, and none of them reported any serious geometry problems, either.

Lots of uninformed fearmongering here.
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000GTP
Maybe the "major" was a bit overused on my part, but I'm sure you are going to have to go through some extra consideration and planning when doing that setup due to the higher lifts. A little extra planning will be in order when choosing pushrods, springs, and there may even the possible issue with a valve contacting a piston. You may have to do the "clay method" just to make sure that the valves don't touch the pistons at all. I couldn't tell you for sure as I haven't heard of anyone running the CC503 cam with the 1.7RRs, then again, I haven't seen one here with aftermarket mild heads/cam setups and 1.7RRs, I wonder why? Maybe if someone has such a setup, then can post up their experiences and details.

P-V problems at 230 dur / 578 lift with stock pistons & valves? I'd say you've paid as little attention to p-v posts on this board as you have to rocker ratio posts.



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