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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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CC305 power and times

what are some of u making for power with the cc305 and what kinda times

i learned my state dosent do the sniffer just obdll but im not looking for anything major

CC305 GM846 or hotcam or 224/230
which should i get for streetability and with use of stock heads
Old Feb 3, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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I had a cc305 in my old 93, with home ported heads and full exhaust it would trap from 110 to 112 and ran low 12s with a best of 12.29.

The cam was very streetable, had a nice exhaust rumble and was by no means even close to being unstreetable.
I had the 224/230 in my 383 before the 847 and the XE cam was tame tame tame. It was too small for the 383, but would rpobably performed simular to the cc305 in a 350.
Old Feb 3, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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I had a cc305 in my old 93, with home ported heads and full exhaust it would trap from 110 to 112 and ran low 12s with a best of 12.29.

The cam was very streetable, had a nice exhaust rumble and was by no means even close to being unstreetable.
I had the 224/230 in my 383 before the 847 and the XE cam was tame tame tame. It was too small for the 383, but would rpobably performed simular to the cc305 in a 350.
thanks man anybody else. im looking for a good streetable cam , somthing bigger than the hotcam that will work with stock heads,
the cc 305 looks like it may be what im gonna buy but hell i once settled for the hot cam lol

anybody running the CC305 with all boltons and stock heads those would be the times im mostly interested in
Old Feb 3, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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I had cc305, shorty headers, and stock torque converter. Made 300rwhp, and ran low 13s at 104mph. Then again, I had some ignition problems so i think the car had more in it than that.
Old Feb 3, 2005 | 05:53 PM
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What are your goals man?

I dont think that the CC305 is going to meet your expectations. You already know the Hotcam wont and the CC305 isnt much bigger. I'd say take a good look at the XE224/230, and if thats too much Perhaps the XE218/224. Both are good with stock heads and the XE grinds seem to put out great numbers. Not saying the CC305 doesnt but I rode in a car with a CC305 and personally I couldnt tell the difference in power over my lil bolt on car. I think the XE224/230 would be suited for you. But then again lets hear what you want to accomplish.

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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 06:17 PM
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ok heres what i want
A streetable cammed car,
needs nice power throughout all teh rpm ranges, maybe a little more on the top side (ppl over here alway want to roll race, damn ricers lol)
high 12s are my only reall goal (maybe mids)(with all bolton),
dont really want it to be extremely lopey
must work with stock heads/intake ( i know any cam will but somthing where i can get the most out of it without needing heads)
needs to be fair on emisions (ny has no sniffer but im nto a 100% on teh OBDll crap)
must be good for gas mileage since i dont get a crap load now
might be running on stock stall for awhile to

anything else i want ill let u know
Old Feb 3, 2005 | 06:30 PM
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Well the LSA will give it the lope and since your trying to pass emissions I'd say the XE224/230 on 114LSA. Not to much lope and wide enough to get you through emissions easily. Javier97z28 runs 12.0's with his stock head 224/230 car. I think 12's would be easily done with that cam. Of course track 1/4 time is alot of stall and stick tires. From a roll the 224/230 is going to have a bit more steam since its going to produce more HP at the higher rpms than the other cams on your list. Now people are going to say I ran 11.9 with a hotcam, but they wont tell you they did it with a 3200 stall and slicks. Since your running from a roll the converter wont matter much. Nice thing about the XE grinds it they have nice flat TQ curves. Ask madwolf what kind of numbers the cams usually run after his tunes. I bet he could tell you a thing or two. Also I hate to say this buy search a bit for some stock head times on these cams. I think 12's can be done with any of those, but its going to be easier with a bit more duration and flatter torque band. Hope that answers some things for you.

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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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Well the LSA will give it the lope and since your trying to pass emissions I'd say the XE224/230 on 114LSA. Not to much lope and wide enough to get you through emissions easily. Javier97z28 runs 12.0's with his stock head 224/230 car. I think 12's would be easily done with that cam. Of course track 1/4 time is alot of stall and stick tires. From a roll the 224/230 is going to have a bit more steam since its going to produce more HP at the higher rpms than the other cams on your list. Now people are going to say I ran 11.9 with a hotcam, but they wont tell you they did it with a 3200 stall and slicks. Since your running from a roll the converter wont matter much. Nice thing about the XE grinds it they have nice flat TQ curves. Ask madwolf what kind of numbers the cams usually run after his tunes. I bet he could tell you a thing or two. Also I hate to say this buy search a bit for some stock head times on these cams. I think 12's can be done with any of those, but its going to be easier with a bit more duration and flatter torque band. Hope that answers some things for you.

-Dustin-
that answers a whoe lot for me , i actually checked out the kids sight and hes running everythingi plan on running and teh 12 second N/A time is nice ,
how much abuse can teh bottom end take , i can get a nice price on some powdered rods id rather go forged but thats another story
Old Feb 3, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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You already have powder metal connecting rods, LT1's switched over to them from the forged GM pink rods in July of 1994. And your bottom end will have no problem holding the power you will make with a 224/230 or smaller cam. Sounds like you have a winner, now get in on a Combination Motorsports cam package purchase.

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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 09:16 PM
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so you actually gonna go through with this?

and when you do i better not see you at the track this year running high 14's again...
Old Feb 3, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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Ouch! You run high 14's dude? Maybe you should buy a 150 shot of N2O...

Either way you still need some fuggin headers!

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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 09:23 PM
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ha_ i think it was a combination of first time to track and it wasnt the best track prep...

hell i couldnt break 14.5 that night (my first time too and bad knock) and sadly enough the last time i went best i pulled was a 14.3 (test and tune night and car before me dumped entire oil pan on the track, they tried to cleanup but had to shutdown)

tractions a bitch....

/ edit_ ha and the headers on my car were his he sold me last summer
Old Feb 3, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bersaglieri
Ouch! You run high 14's dude? Maybe you should buy a 150 shot of N2O...

Either way you still need some fuggin headers!

-Dustin-
haha here we go again , im not making excuses but i could only get a best of 14.6 fir these reasons
...first time at track
....bald rear tires
....possible rear problem
....bad prepped track

ive seen many cars there running slower than they shoulda
Old Feb 3, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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Traction is the number one issue that has to be addressed on our cars. Perhaps this season I'll have to drive up to NY to show you guys how to drive

I am just messing with you cause I know you man. Its understandable, our track prep sucks here too and it goes uphil after the 1/8.

Get some HEADERS!

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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Bersaglieri

Either way you still need some fuggin headers!

-Dustin-
all in due time buddy...actually come to think about it if i didnt need tires id have bought them yesterday , gonna wait for taxes or till the end of this month



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