And the hits keep coming. In my life when it rains it pours, forever. Today I had the oprotunity to get some datalogs using Freescan and TTS Datascanner. Everything went fine, I did some runs then came home. 8 hours later I go to start the car up and nothing. The dash lights, headlights, everything works but when I turn the key I get absolutly nothing. The car wont turn over or nothing. First thing I think is mabey the battery connection is loose, it's tight. Though it's dark I looked over everything and all seemed well so I dont know what the hell the problem is. All I did was log some runs. Could I have fried or damaged the computer somehow by using the datalogging software? What else should I check and would any of the obd1 diagnoses crap I have on my Laptop do anything for me at the moment to help figure out why this POS wont start?

 

Are you saying when you turn the key there is absolutley NOTHING from the starter.... not even a click?

 

Nothing, not even a click. It's odd because everything else works power wise.

 

When I fried my PCM the starter still turned over the motor just didn't start, because the PCM doesn't touch the starter circuts... Sounds to me that your battery is dead, or something else in the starter circut.. First thing you need to do is check voltage...

Your starter could have just died and have nothing to do with the data logs..

 

Might not be supplying enough amps to turn the starter over.

 

Have you replaced your key? I know i got a security light and when i got the car cranked the light came on and it cut right back off in about a second.

 

Nope it's the same key. I dont have a voltmeter so I cant check the battery. I dint leave anything on to drain it so Im not sure what the deal is.

 

Don't you have a volt gage on the dash? put the key in a read what it shows if it is low, it won't have enought power to start the car. My firebird has a color scale on the gage and if it is in the red on that gage it doesn't start...

 

I just came from outside. It's in the red when I turn the key. Some little dx Honda tried to give me a jump but it still wouldnt even crank over. I'm not sure if his battery was to small or if there is something really wrong. When yours is in the red does it at least try to turn over? Mine is in the red but not by much. Id say its at about 10.5-11.

 

Well Ive tried jumping it, I tried a new battery, I tried reading the codes, NOTHING. It wont even attempt to turn over. When I turn the key the radio goes black and it draws a slight charge but the engine and starter does absolutlty nothing. Even if the starter was bad I would think it would still try to turn over.

 

You may have a dead short in the wire from the battery to the starter, or in the starter itself.

 

Yeah I'm guessing that's it that's all that left. I'm having the transmission looked at tommorow. Proably take a look at it while it's on the lift.

 

This just happened to me!!!!!!!!!! It was a broken wire in the steering column that connects to the lock cylinder. Every time you turn the key, this wire moves a bit back and forth until it just breaks off. It's a tiny wire and it's no wonder it is such a problem on these cars. Same thing - battery good, all lights come on, turn the key and nothing. We jumped the solenoid and it started and stayed running as long as the screwdriver was connecting the terminals at the starter. Check this out first!

 

Thanks for the info. That will be the first thing we look at.