View Poll Results: Cam or not?
put a cam in and enjoy!



15
68.18%
dont do it...



2
9.09%
suggestions



1
4.55%
put a cam with support in.. (specify support)



4
18.18%
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to cam or not to cam..
Re: to cam or not to cam..
Well since no one can really agree on which had what I'd rather spend $25 at Summit to make sure. I talked to many experts about wether my 94 had them or not and no one could say for sure. Plus with 147k would it hurt? I'd rather not take chances.
-Dustin-
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Re: to cam or not to cam..
Originally Posted by Bersaglieri
Well since no one can really agree on which had what I'd rather spend $25 at Summit to make sure. I talked to many experts about wether my 94 had them or not and no one could say for sure. Plus with 147k would it hurt? I'd rather not take chances.
-Dustin-
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Re: to cam or not to cam..
I agree on lifters, but since it doesnt seem in his budget, I'd at least do pushrods. Either way its not my choice, I can only recommend. Supposedly its getting an overhaul in the spring.
-Dustin-
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Re: to cam or not to cam..
Bersaglieri, if he goes to the 612 spring like I have, the pockets don't need machining. They set up at the exact height that the stockers use and they put 135 lbs. of seat pressure on the lifter. They also support .600 lift for future upgrades or 1.6 rockers. Combination engineering has the complete spring swap kit with retainers and keepers. The 305 cam is a good choice for a daily driver and will have plenty of ooooooomph! Just my .02
Re: to cam or not to cam..
195k is a lot of miles
plus im not worried if mine dies or not from this, if it keels over ill worry about it in the spring like i said if not ive already talked my dad into lettin me borrow one of his 4cyl cars
and he also has an opti i can use on that motor i mentioned in my other thread
so thats one less thing i have to worry about =D !!! so at the very least i need to do springs and lifters+cam? i really only wanna do the minimal things required until the rebuild.. i would prefer to take care of all that at once, only reason im considering the cam is since the intake has to come off anyway otherwise ild do it in spring too
plus im not worried if mine dies or not from this, if it keels over ill worry about it in the spring like i said if not ive already talked my dad into lettin me borrow one of his 4cyl cars
and he also has an opti i can use on that motor i mentioned in my other thread
so thats one less thing i have to worry about =D !!! so at the very least i need to do springs and lifters+cam? i really only wanna do the minimal things required until the rebuild.. i would prefer to take care of all that at once, only reason im considering the cam is since the intake has to come off anyway otherwise ild do it in spring too
Re: to cam or not to cam..
Well, putting a cam in a 200k motor is probably not the best idea. If you do it though, I would definitely replace at least the front cam bearing (guaranteed the cam bearings are wiped out), timing chain (heavy duty Cloyes LT1 replacement is fine), depending on what cam you go with maybe pushrods, definitely the springs, retainers, seals and locks. It probably would be a good idea to put some lower mile lifters in there too. Is your oil pressure ok? If it is, then the engine is probably ok to do this. Just don't overcam. The quickest LT1 all natural hydraulic cammed SS Impala only runs a 212/218 cam with 1.6 rockers 11.81.
Re: to cam or not to cam..
Originally Posted by chrism400
Well, putting a cam in a 200k motor is probably not the best idea. If you do it though, I would definitely replace at least the front cam bearing (guaranteed the cam bearings are wiped out), timing chain (heavy duty Cloyes LT1 replacement is fine), depending on what cam you go with maybe pushrods, definitely the springs, retainers, seals and locks. It probably would be a good idea to put some lower mile lifters in there too. Is your oil pressure ok? If it is, then the engine is probably ok to do this. Just don't overcam. The quickest LT1 all natural hydraulic cammed SS Impala only runs a 212/218 cam with 1.6 rockers 11.81.
that all sounds good to me, with 140k miles and oil psi staying at around 40 cruising warm (at around 1500rpms) and 60+ cold.. i think mines good
i think ive got a rocker tick in the right side engine bank though cause i can hear it ticking in the bullet at the back.. that or its hitting something and rattling somewhere else (very likely cause it rattles bad at idle) oh and warm idle psi at a redlight is right at 20 probly closer to 15 though this with m1 10/30 synthetic. so the CC305, apparently highly recommended for streetability around here or with stock internals and heads... but what are the stats on it? i just want somethin pretty mild cause my goal on the rebuild (in april/may so it would be nice if it lasts till then) is 300+hp n/a and a 150shot of nitrous. just enough for a good oomph once in awhile for the occasional track nights
Re: to cam or not to cam..
CC305: 220/230 .510/.510 112 LSA - $550-600 (cam $250, rockers $250, springs at least $75, small parts $30.)
Hotcam: 218/228 .492/.492 112 LSA - $479.99 (Everything included)
You have to figure price into the equation. The Hotcam will be the cheapest route and will yeild about the same amount of power.
Your goal for the rebuild should be 400-500hp, bolt on LT1's run around 350hp. If you are planning on using the cam you get now in the rebuild the CC305 has a bit more on the exhaust to help with N2O. I'd also get it ground on a 114 LSA.
-Dustin-
Hotcam: 218/228 .492/.492 112 LSA - $479.99 (Everything included)
You have to figure price into the equation. The Hotcam will be the cheapest route and will yeild about the same amount of power.
Your goal for the rebuild should be 400-500hp, bolt on LT1's run around 350hp. If you are planning on using the cam you get now in the rebuild the CC305 has a bit more on the exhaust to help with N2O. I'd also get it ground on a 114 LSA.
-Dustin-
Last edited by Bersaglieri; Oct 14, 2005 at 01:26 AM.
Re: to cam or not to cam..
Originally Posted by Bersaglieri
CC305: 220/230 .510/.540 112 LSA - $550-600 (cam $250, rockers $250, springs at least $75, small parts $30.)
Hotcam: 218/228 .492/.492 112 LSA - $479.99 (Everything included)
You have to figure price into the equation. The Hotcam will be the cheapest route and will yeild about the same amount of power.
Your goal for the rebuild should be 400-500hp, bolt on LT1's run around 350hp. If you are planning on using the cam you get now in the rebuild the CC305 has a bit more on the exhaust to help with N2O. I'd also get it ground on a 114 LSA.
-Dustin-
Hotcam: 218/228 .492/.492 112 LSA - $479.99 (Everything included)
You have to figure price into the equation. The Hotcam will be the cheapest route and will yeild about the same amount of power.
Your goal for the rebuild should be 400-500hp, bolt on LT1's run around 350hp. If you are planning on using the cam you get now in the rebuild the CC305 has a bit more on the exhaust to help with N2O. I'd also get it ground on a 114 LSA.
-Dustin-
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