87lt1rx7

Here is the issue. I have the car in my sig and I live in california. I was recently pulled over and so now am scared of getting sent to the ref. after I put my LE1 355 in that is sitting in my garage. It currently has the LE1 non emmissions grind. i also have a "baby cam" 218/224 on a 112 LSA sitting around.My other option is to wait and buy the LE emmissions grind. I am purely not wanting to have run ins with the state ref's now. I already have a visit coming up for when I got pulled over for loud exhaust(uncapped borla, now it is fully plated for street driving). Also gas mileage might be a nice feature that I don't think an LE1 cam can do as well as a 218/224.


What do you guys think? how much power will I be holding out on with the smaller cam?

Doug 97SS

You have to ask yourself one very important question..

Will you like getting pulled over constantly by the police??

I say that because, if a police officers THINKS it might not be legal will be justification enough to pull you over. AND if there is still doubt off you go to get checked out. Sooo...is the time and hassle worth it to you??

I would think constantly looking over your shoulder WONDERING if the Police Officer behind you, next to you, parked by you etc...is going to pull you over sure makes for driving not very much fun.

So..even if you get Lloyds Emissions cam, but if the Police THINK its not legal, well its your time...and if time is of no concern to you then go the route that you want (which I suspect the Higher HP route).

OR MOVE out of the USSC (United Socialist State of California).

My solution???

Put in a smaller cam thats blower friendly and put a blower on it. A P1SC Procharger is 50 state legal. Good luck my friend...

95custom

**** the police.. who cares if you get pulled over for "noise" you sound like you are pushing alot of drugs or are always drunk while driving????

James Montigny

Not sure how often they send yoy guys to the sniffer, but the emmisions
going would be good peice of mind of it's annual/bi-annual.

Otherwise stick with a cutom grind for those LE heads.
(I assume that's what you mean by "Full LE1 sittin in the garage")
LE1 and LE2 are kick *** cams for a street car and maintain the bottom end.
I think you would like that over the baby cam.

For your borla, grab a e-cutout and put it in place of the plate, open/close as appropriate.

Doug 97SS

Nope and nope..... Take my opinion for what it is...an opinion....Stay safe out there.

87lt1rx7

I definately don't sell drugs and I am 19 so I don't drink. My lovely city of san jose has a "street racing task force" that can pull you over for LOOKING like or sounding like a street racer. I was going 35 MPH in 4th gear and got pulled over for being too loud. I am just trying to set up my next engine as smart as possible. If I leave the custom LE1 cam in than I have to find a way to get a "smog check" . If I put the small cam in I would like to know waht power I would be losing in comparison. I would assume it would be about the same torque. plus it would probably pass smog. a lot of things to be waeighed out here

RE AND CHERYL

Problem with the LE emissions cam will be that it isn't CARB legal. Might not be a big deal in 49 states. But in CA it is. Just cause it passes emissions, dosen't mean everything is OK.

It's obviouis you have a thrist for power at any cost. Why not just put a mild LEGAL cam int he car and blow it. Many supercharger kits are CARB legal, will get decent gas milliage, and make loads of power.

Re'

afr lt1

I have a 218/224 cam. Check sig for info.

SStrokerAce

For the most part most cams are not CARB legal, so it doesn't matter anyways.

I agree that a emissions legal blower setup is the easy way to make power. There is even a LE-Blower emissions legal cam for that.

One key would to get a quieter exhaust on the car, that will get less attention from the 5-0.

Bret

speed_demon24

I'de vote for the crane 227 cam, I think its 50 state legal. + I trapped 115mph with that cam, and I didn't even have a dyno tune, true duals, ported intake manifold, 58mm tb, ect, so it had alot left in it.

BUBBA

Hey Speed: You said you trapped 115 with the 227 cam---but the cam in your signature is not the 227 is it? If not, what mods did you have when you trapped 115 and how much RWHP/TQ?

Thx

O J

That right there is probably the best single piece of advice you can take away from this. If you don't want to get in trouble for doing something, don't go advertising.

I have the high lift version of the emissions cam and it makes good power, but I have bigger heads and more cubes than you, too. Lloyd would be able to tell you how much power to expect with your combo, but I'm guessing he would say in the 350-375rwhp range with the emissions cam and his heads.

Don't know the specs on LE1 exactly, so I may be out in left field on this one, but one option might be to see if you could get it to pass with a good tune. My cam passes so easily that my mechanic could hardly believe the numbers. So I know I could go easily go bigger and still pass.

Honestly though, just like people have said before me, power adders are really the only way to make big power and pass emissions.

Wild1

So what did you decide?

The CARB Crane Cams has 116 LSA and 48 degrees of overlap.
The CC502 has 112 LSA and 48.5 degrees of overlap.

I live in California too and I think it is possible to use the CC502 with good programming.

People have passed with the Hot Cam and it has 51 degrees of overlap on good programming.

speed_demon24

Kind of a long time since this thread and I forgot about it. It put down 352/360rwhp, got valve float above 5800 RPM's, and a mail order tune with a 12.0 a/f on the dyno . I had longtubes, hooker catback (unbolted it at the track, gained 0.8mph), stock tb, stock intake manifold, who knows what heads, ect... I'm still pissed that my cam hasn't beat the mph of the 227 cam. I have the gm 846 right now, and am about to buy a bauer cam.

1_bad t/a

i have the 502 grind # r in the sig.