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Old Sep 3, 2013 | 04:28 PM
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Bottom end- where to buy...crankshaft options for 383 build

So i'm researching and comparing prices on eagle/scat vs callies.. i'm leaning towards biting the bullet on the callies. But anyways.. either way, where to get the crankshaft pistons and rods for my lt1. Looks like ls1 everywhere, but trouble finding them for lt1.
Should I go with a kit (if I can find one) or separate for the bottom end.

I have a psc1 procharger 14psi lbs of boost I plan on, and porting out my stock heads and portmatch the intake.
Old Sep 3, 2013 | 04:46 PM
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Re: Bottom end- where to buy...crankshaft options for 383 build

its all about what u want .... ive seen a bbf eat oliver rods but cheaper eagle rods lasted forever ... my brother built a 468 in hs with an eagle crank an rods ... ive shot the **** out of it over the years no issue. If I had the money id go callies crank
Old Sep 3, 2013 | 05:04 PM
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Re: Bottom end- where to buy...crankshaft options for 383 build

I heard callies not making compstar, but now dragonslayer crank.. maybe theyre comparable? anyway competitionproduct site showing a callies 4340 compstar crank for only $782.. this seems like a good price. I'm weary on ordering just from any site tho.
Old Sep 3, 2013 | 05:35 PM
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Re: Bottom end- where to buy...crankshaft options for 383 build

In many cases it is best for your machine shop to advise and purchase the parts you want. That way you can hold them accountable for any problems in the future. It's unwise to buy a bunch of parts and give them to your machine shop. Talk to them first about it and see what they say.
Old Sep 5, 2013 | 06:49 AM
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Re: Bottom end- where to buy...crankshaft options for 383 build

Avoid the cast Eagle and Scat cranks. Many instances of breakages with them and being out of balance/spec from the factory.

If you're going to replace the factory crank, go with a high-quality 4340 forged, USA-made piece.
Old Sep 6, 2013 | 08:27 PM
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Re: Bottom end- where to buy...crankshaft options for 383 build

Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
In many cases it is best for your machine shop to advise and purchase the parts you want. That way you can hold them accountable for any problems in the future. It's unwise to buy a bunch of parts and give them to your machine shop. Talk to them first about it and see what they say.
This.

I've never had a Scat 4340 crank break for no good reason, I use them all the time in sub 850hp applications, above that I go Callies, Crower, or Bryant simply for added peace of mind.
Old Sep 8, 2013 | 09:20 AM
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Re: Bottom end- where to buy...crankshaft options for 383 build

snds good, what do you think of these upgradeable kits and prices from lukovichracing- $1795
Looks like I can upgrade to a Callies dragonslayer from eagle for $495 more. What about eagle rods? is it worth upgrading for $300 more to callies comp star rods?
Here's a cut and paste from their site

COMPETITION ROTATING ASSEMBLIES

Includes:
• Eagle "ESP" Forged 4340 steel crankshaft with nitrided rod and main journals
•Eagle "ESP" 4340 H-Beam 3-D connecting rods
•SRP forged aluminum pistons with wrist pins, locks and oil support rails when required
•Federal Mogul or Clevite 77 rod and main bearings.
•File fit rings include plasma ductile iron top ring, reverse twist 2nd ring
and standard or low tension oil rings an oil rail support when required.
•Mallory Metal if required for balancing is extra

Most Kits available in 4.020, 4.030, 4.040, 4.060.

CHEVY 350 / 383
P/N STRK CUIN ROD PISTON TYPE BRAND RINGS PRICE
12029 3.480 355 5.700 INV DOME -24CC SRP FILEFIT $1795.95
12001 3.480 355 5.700 FLAT TOP -5CC SRP FILEFIT $1795.95
12002 3.750 383 5.700 INV DOME 11CC SRP FILEFIT $1795.95
12007 3.750 383 5.700 INV DOME -16CC SRP FILEFIT $1795.95
12011 3.750 383 6.000 FLAT TOP -5CC SRP FILEFIT $1795.95

UPGRADES
CALLIES DRAGONSLAYER 4340 3.875 TO 4.125 CRANK ADD $495.00
CALLIES-LUNATI-CROWER PRO CRANK ADD $1095.00
CALLIES COMP STAR 4340 FORGED STEEL RODS ADD $300.00
LUNATI 4340 PRO MOD RODS ADD $425.00
OLIVER STEEL BILLET RODS ADD $995.00
GRP ALUMINUM BILLET RODS ADD $595.00
EAGLE 3D RODS W/ARP L19/2000 ROD BOLTS ADD $125.00
TOOL STEEL WRIST PINS ADD $175.00
GAS PORT PISTONS ADD $150.00
WISECO/JE PRO SERIES 14 TO 1 PISTONS ADD $195.00
HELLFIRE NITROUS TOP RING ADD $125.00
Old Sep 8, 2013 | 08:45 PM
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Re: Bottom end- where to buy...crankshaft options for 383 build

Competition Products - Howards Tracksmart 4340 forged crank and 6" h-beam rods with Mahle forged flattop pistons, coated rod & main bearings $1895.00. That's what's in my new forced induction combo nd the Howards parts are made and machined in the USA if that stuff matters to you.
Old Sep 9, 2013 | 07:39 AM
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interesting, thanks for the howards tip.. I have definitely scratched eagle off my list, depending on my budget how things add up it'll be howards or callies. Anyone else experienced with howards stuff?
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