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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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alternatives to opti suitable for 7300+ RPM

Went to the track Monday and put down some 10.60's n/a but was breaking up slightly on the big end going through the traps at 7300 (with opti). What other systems are out there? Does the Delteq or any other system support big RPM? What are you fast guys using who turn big RPM?
Old Jul 26, 2004 | 11:34 PM
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Re: alternatives to opti suitable for 7300+ RPM

belt driven distributor like the S/S cars
i believe the Delteq and LTCC are more then capable of of 7000+
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 01:17 AM
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If running aftermarket EFI & bank to bank, you can just use a hall effect crank trigger and leave the rotor in the opti. Don't know what you're running for EFI, but that might be another option.

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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 07:45 AM
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The factory pcm has one real limit and that is controling ignition beyond 7200, the opti is probably not your problem if you still have a GM pcm.
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 08:29 AM
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Yes the car still has the factory PCM. Noticed the breakup in the mid-upper 6k range though too, not just at 7200-7300.

Mindgame - Do you recommend any particular aftermarket (affordable) engine management? Would a Gen6 take care of this problem? Im sure I could find one for under $600 so that might be the best solution. Does the Gen 6 have recording capabilities like the FAST system? I am familiar with FAST but not the Accel DFI.
Old Jul 28, 2004 | 11:56 AM
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 02:53 PM
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The Gen 6 DFI can record up to 6 functions at a time, as well as real time monitoring on a laptop. It uses a low res signal from the opti, so I guess it would work with a crank trigger.

It would be nice to get rid of the opti all together, the caps like to cross fire when they go bad. I have been thinking about just drilling a hole in the back of the intake and installing a distributor. I could get a new MSD for the price of the cap and opti.

And my 68 has a "normal" firewall, unlike the 4th gens!
Old Aug 11, 2004 | 02:59 PM
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Its not your opti ..its your factory puter.....I turn 7600+ on a factory opti w/ no issues w/ engine management ofcourse...
Old Aug 11, 2004 | 03:15 PM
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I'm running a distributor,Crank Trigger, and fast. Got rid of the opti all together although, I never had a problem with it.

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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 10:59 PM
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The Opti is not a problem when you use it simply for getting the cam position signal from the low res pulse. I've seen them support up to 8,000rpm feeding MoTeC aftermarket systems. Add the capability to run 8 direct fire coils, and an aftermarket ECU becomes desirable for engines running over 7,000rpm.
Old Aug 12, 2004 | 08:46 AM
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The Opti is not a problem when you use it simply for getting the cam position signal from the low res pulse. I've seen them support up to 8,000rpm feeding MoTeC aftermarket systems. Add the capability to run 8 direct fire coils, and an aftermarket ECU becomes desirable for engines running over 7,000rpm.

I know the coil packs are all the rage now, but it would also work using the low res signal from the opti, and a rear mount old style distributor, correct?
Old Aug 12, 2004 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by texlurch

I know the coil packs are all the rage now, but it would also work using the low res signal from the opti, and a rear mount old style distributor, correct?
"All the rage now...." ??? Several of us got into this up to 6 years ago, and Baxter's 9.04-second LT1 used the low-res/MoTeC/LS1 coil setup when he ran those times about 3 years ago.

Not sure what your question is... if you have an "old style" distributor, what are you using the low res signal for, except possibly to keep the "sequential" part of SFI.
Old Aug 12, 2004 | 09:15 AM
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Edit: Turns out 7200rpm actually acts like a rev limiter of sorts. At least with the 8051 PCM. So I guess I was wrong about that.

I turn 7600+ on a factory opti w/ no issues w/ engine management ofcourse...
I fear for your opti rotor. It's not long for this world (unless you already got rid of it).

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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 11:49 AM
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Re: alternatives to opti suitable for 7300+ RPM

Originally Posted by Injuneer
"All the rage now...." ??? Several of us got into this up to 6 years ago, and Baxter's 9.04-second LT1 used the low-res/MoTeC/LS1 coil setup when he ran those times about 3 years ago.
I believe he is referring to the the LTCC and Delteq systems that have recently become available to the less hardcore crowd.

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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 11:50 AM
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Re: alternatives to opti suitable for 7300+ RPM

Originally Posted by kevm14
You simply can't define additional spark advance beyond 7300rpm. It's not that it should break up, but you'll continue to have the same SA beyond 7300 that you did at 7300. Not really a huge deal, especially if you're going only a little beyond. The car won't stop accelerating or anything (or if it does, it's not the PCM's fault).



I fear for your opti rotor. It's not long for this world (unless you already got rid of it).
4 years and counting,8000 rpm pretty regular.The one I replaced then,there was nothing wrong with it....call me a rebel ..but then again as I said its a 94' opti ..the 95' up are the ones I see coming apart...

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