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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 11:19 AM
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Aeromotive Replacement Regulator Offer

I spent quite a bit of time this weekend looking at posts on our product and I would appear that a few of you have had some kind of trouble. It would also appear that the moderator lacks confidence in our product as well considering the amount of "Search the posts for AEROMOTIVE" comments made when someone is considering a fuel system upgrade.
We at Aeromotive want you to be satisfied and confident with your fuel system purchase and upgrades. Those of you who feel as if your Aeromotive LT1 regulator is giving you trouble may send it back in to me and we will replace it for you.
This offer is for the older screw together regulator that is all red. We will replace it with our newer bolt together regulator that is red and black. Part #'s 13106 and 13107.

Please email me at mark.andereck@aeromotiveinc.com for instructions before sending the unit back. I need to issue you an RGA number in advance. I will want your name, address, daytime phone number and regulator application.

Our regulators are not guaranteed to hold line pressure when the engine is off. The regulator is designed to be able to bypass larger volumes of fuel then stock so they will support high volume fuel pumps. Due to this design consideration they may, and often due trickle fuel when the pump is shut off, dropping rail pressure. While this may be unnoticable for the majority, some of you have mentioned it in past posts as it could cause a hard start with a low volume pump as they do shut off after a couple of seconds if the engine doesn't start. This is not a defect in design, but the way the regualtor is engineered to support the higher flow.

I hope that this offer will help earn your fuel system business back for those of you dissatisfied with your purchase and show our potential customers that we stand behind our product. Our tech lines have always been open and we are always here to help. If for any reason you have a question or complaint please take the time to call before leaving it on the net for all eternity.

Mark Andereck
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913-647-7300
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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Re: Aeromotive Replacement Regulator Offer

Very impressive response.
Old Mar 28, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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Is there any major differences in between the two regulators, I am looking to purchase a fuel pressure regulator but now im not sure if I should get the old one, or get the new one. Which would be the better pick??? Thanx ~ Hoz B
Old Mar 28, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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The all red anodized regulator was discontinued a couple years ago. It is a screw together design that did not lend itself to servicing should the need arise. After loctiting the body it was virtually impossible to take apart without cosmetic damage due to the surface area of the threads. The newer design may be seen here http://www.aeromotiveinc.com/product...uct.phtml?p=13

This regulator is completely serviceable and all fittings, o-rings, etc. needed for installation are included.
Old Mar 28, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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Re: Aeromotive Replacement Regulator Offer

Originally Posted by markinkc69z
... It would also appear that the moderator lacks confidence in our product as well considering the amount of "Search the posts for AEROMOTIVE" comments made when someone is considering a fuel system upgrade....

Mark Andereck
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I suspect I may be the "modrator" you are finding not to your liking. First, let me clarify that my comments regarding the quality of your product were made as an "individual poster", and not in any sort of "moderator" capacity.

My comments were based on reviewing literaly HUNDREDS of posts every day, on four different F-Body related bulletin boards, and seeing a disproportionate number of complaints about the Aeromotive AFPR. And, interestingly, the complaints did not deal primarily with the inability of the AFPR to hold pressure on shtuoff. The main concern was an inability to correctly adjust the fuel pressure.

I respect your offer to "make good" on problem units, although I'm pretty sure the problems have been going on for more than a year that I am aware of. I'm a little ticked that you chose to somehow cast aspersions on the moderator(s).
Old Mar 28, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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Aeromotive has litterally thousands of LT1 regulators in the field. We are proud of our service record and take our reputation seriously. We maintain a warranty replacement/service rate of less than 1% across our entire product line. This is not a product recall, but a customer relations campaign. I am not going to test the regulators that may be sent back for replacement, nor am I going to ask for proof of purchase. We stand behind our product and offer a 1 year warranty on all fuel system components without padding our cost. We feel the product is a good value and performs to/beyond expectations. Our customers seem to support those feelings as well.
If your anonymous screen name says "Moderator" then any post you make is by default in the Moderator capacity. The reader will make no distinction.

Thunder Racing is a supporter of this site and has had no problems selling, installing or having to service the LT1 regulator.

Changes in gasoline formulation in 2001-2002 caused some problems with the diaphragm material used in some regulators. Alchohol percentage went up in some cases as well as the use of other oxygenated compounds increased and changed across the country. These new compounds deteriorated the diaphragm material.This deterioration can cause the material to leak, thus rendering the regulator inoperative and flooding the engine through the vacuum line. We responded to the new fuels by developing a new diaphragm material that is much more resistant to the deterioration and incorporating it into our new regulators starting in 2003.

If there was an epidemic we would know about it and so would others. Our lines are open, operators are standing by....

Mark
Old Mar 29, 2005 | 12:22 AM
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Re: Aeromotive Replacement Regulator Offer

Originally Posted by markinkc69z
......If your anonymous screen name says "Moderator" then any post you make is by default in the Moderator capacity. The reader will make no distinction.....

Mark
So... it appears you are suggesting that, as a moderator on this forum, I am no longer entitled to express my opinion on technical matters? Surely you jest. You aren't really gaining a lot with your "customer relations campaign," with that attitude.

Makes me want to stand fast in my PERSONAL (NON-MODERATOR) opinion that the Aeromotive AFPR is not reliable.
Old Apr 1, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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Re: Aeromotive Replacement Regulator Offer

Since the weekend is here I wanted to reiterate our offer to replace your old Aeromotive LT1 regulator. This board is so active its almost a chat room.
I just wanted to bump this thread to make sure that everyone had a chance to see it. We have had 3 takers thus far, and I appreciate your kind comments. Enjoy your weekend!

Mark
Old Apr 1, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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I want to thank you for the return offer. I will email you about returning a regulator for my Impala which leaks fuel externally and through the vacuum port.

I have a newer style regulator on another car that has worked well & my A1000 pump has been great to me so far.



Thanks!
Old Apr 2, 2005 | 06:31 AM
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My problem with the black/red regulator was that it did not properly fit the fuel rails. When I contacted someone (don't remember their name) at Aero, they told me to "zip tie" it to the fuel rail bracket. Sorry I don't have the product number handy but I was told at the time it was the correct number. I've since put it in file 13. I do use the A1000 series pump and like the performance but dislike the noise.

Before they came up with the answer to zip tie it, I swore I was sent the wrong regulator since it did not fit and it did not resemble the photo at Jeg's, Summit or Aero's web site. It seems that up until recently did the photos at anyone of those web sites change.
Old Apr 2, 2005 | 01:38 PM
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Re: Aeromotive Replacement Regulator Offer

Were the included shims ineffective in installation, or it it some other kind if issue? The regulator includes the fittings and o-rings required to install it back to the factory fuel system. If you have a camaro then you should have received part number 13107. If you received 13106 the bracket would be backwards. Call me during the week and I will try to help you sort it out.
Old Apr 2, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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Re: Aeromotive Replacement Regulator Offer

I can (greatly) appreciate your efforts to better your customer relations, but I fail to see how any contributing member -- regardless of status -- can be blamed for your product's questionable reputation among the f-body community. The fact that you are here replacing defective regulators, free of charge, might suggest that this is not the mental fabrication of any sole individual at this website.

Just my $.02 -- no need to point fingers at anything other than the product in question. I've heard a lot of negative first-hand experience, and opted for a different brand. Something as important as fueling should not be left to question. I hope the revisions to your regulators will resolve these known reliability issues...

Regards~
Old Apr 6, 2005 | 09:12 AM
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Re: Aeromotive Replacement Regulator Offer

Would it be in terrible bad taste to post an email response I received from Aeromotive where they seem to be "passing the buck" in my opinion? I know Mark was CC'd on the one I received.

I have the new style regulator and rail pressue drops to ZERO in less than two seconds. Apparently this is an LT1 specific "feature" as I haven't heard of any other Aeromotive regulator dropping more than 5-10% line pressure after 8 hours or so.
Old Apr 7, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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Re: Aeromotive Replacement Regulator Offer

Received my replacement regulator today. Just wanted to say that I appreciate Aeromotive and Mark making this offer. I had contacted Aeromotive last month about repairing my old regulator. I received very quick and professional responses from Mark. To get a free replacement on an out of warranty 2 year old regulator is outstanding. Great customer service in my opinion.
Old Apr 7, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by markinkc69z
Were the included shims ineffective in installation

Mark I want to thank you again for the replacement offer... I did not get a chance to send any of mine back to you yet, but will do so shortly.


I saw your comment about the shims.... I have pruchaced & installed quite a few aeromotive LT1 regulators over the years and NEVER got one with shims?



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