1996 Z28 (8 DTC's) Need help to Diagnose!
1996 Z28 (8 DTC's) Need help to Diagnose!
Alright a buddy of mine has a 1996 Z28 and Im pretty familiar on the LT1's even after moving to an LSx Z. But the car is very hard to start and he thought it was the Opti which we tested spark from the coil and opti and all is good. Once it starts it wants to die and you cant really keep it running, he removed the thermostat (stupid idea) and it threw a code for that but that wont make it run bad after it gets warmed up but at cold temps it will run funny for that reason alone. Its running lean sometimes and rich sometimes but I believe more lean than rich. Here are the 8 codes it is throwing.
P0101 - MAF System Performance
P0125 - ECT Excessive Time to Closed Loop
P0131 - H02S Circuit Low Voltage Bank 1 Sensor 1
P0174 - Fuel Trim System Lean Bank 2
P0300 - Engine Misfire Detected
P0372 - Crankshaft Position Sensor Fault
P0400 - EGR System Fault
P0420 - TWC System Low Efficiency (CAT Bank 1)
Here is what Ive come up with, needs a new Crankshaft Position Sensor and both front o2 Sensors replaced. With those being bad it wont get the correct timing therefor throwing it off and running rich and sometimes lean so this makes the car misfire. We dont really care for the P0125 code because we know what caused that and the EGR system doesnt matter, its coming off. The CAT in Bank 1 is reading the code it is I think due to it being rich on that side. MAF is out the window, its brand new. Also new thermostat Im going to recommend 180 degree.
Anyone else have an Idea or what do you think. I just need some input on what direction to go from here. As far as experience this is what I think.
Thanks for any info.
Mike
P0101 - MAF System Performance
P0125 - ECT Excessive Time to Closed Loop
P0131 - H02S Circuit Low Voltage Bank 1 Sensor 1
P0174 - Fuel Trim System Lean Bank 2
P0300 - Engine Misfire Detected
P0372 - Crankshaft Position Sensor Fault
P0400 - EGR System Fault
P0420 - TWC System Low Efficiency (CAT Bank 1)
Here is what Ive come up with, needs a new Crankshaft Position Sensor and both front o2 Sensors replaced. With those being bad it wont get the correct timing therefor throwing it off and running rich and sometimes lean so this makes the car misfire. We dont really care for the P0125 code because we know what caused that and the EGR system doesnt matter, its coming off. The CAT in Bank 1 is reading the code it is I think due to it being rich on that side. MAF is out the window, its brand new. Also new thermostat Im going to recommend 180 degree.
Anyone else have an Idea or what do you think. I just need some input on what direction to go from here. As far as experience this is what I think.
Thanks for any info.
Mike
Last edited by Mike96z; Mar 25, 2009 at 04:12 PM.
P0125 - ECT Excessive Time to Closed Loop.......
Also new thermostat Im going to recommend 180 degree.
We dont really care for the P0125 code because we know what caused that and the EGR system doesnt matter, its coming off.
Also new thermostat Im going to recommend 180 degree.
We dont really care for the P0125 code because we know what caused that and the EGR system doesnt matter, its coming off.
P0131 - H02S Circuit Low Voltage Bank 1 Sensor 1
P0174 - Fuel Trim System Lean Bank 2
P0300 - Engine Misfire Detected
P0372 - Crankshaft Position Sensor Fault.....
needs a new Crankshaft Position Sensor and both front o2 Sensors replaced. With those being bad it wont get the correct timing therefor throwing it off and running rich and sometimes lean so this makes the car misfire.
needs a new Crankshaft Position Sensor and both front o2 Sensors replaced. With those being bad it wont get the correct timing therefor throwing it off and running rich and sometimes lean so this makes the car misfire.
P0400 - EGR System Fault
P0420 - TWC System Low Efficiency (CAT Bank 1)......
The CAT in Bank 1 is reading the code it is I think due to it being rich on that side.
The CAT in Bank 1 is reading the code it is I think due to it being rich on that side.
Its either too much air or too little fuel.
It would make sense to check the fuel pressure. It would make sense to find out why the MAF isn't working right. If the MAF reading is irrational, based on a comparison to the speed-density derived mass flow, it sets the code. If the MAF is reading significantly lower than actual flow, its going to show "lean" to the O2 sensors, and the long term fuel corrections will not be able to correct the condition, setting the "lean" codes. I would check the MAF reading with a scanner, at various engine loads.
And, did you check to see if the EGR valve is stuck open? That would make it hard to start, and cause it to stall at idle.
It would make sense to check the fuel pressure. It would make sense to find out why the MAF isn't working right. If the MAF reading is irrational, based on a comparison to the speed-density derived mass flow, it sets the code. If the MAF is reading significantly lower than actual flow, its going to show "lean" to the O2 sensors, and the long term fuel corrections will not be able to correct the condition, setting the "lean" codes. I would check the MAF reading with a scanner, at various engine loads.
And, did you check to see if the EGR valve is stuck open? That would make it hard to start, and cause it to stall at idle.
Its either too much air or too little fuel.
It would make sense to check the fuel pressure. It would make sense to find out why the MAF isn't working right. If the MAF reading is irrational, based on a comparison to the speed-density derived mass flow, it sets the code. If the MAF is reading significantly lower than actual flow, its going to show "lean" to the O2 sensors, and the long term fuel corrections will not be able to correct the condition, setting the "lean" codes. I would check the MAF reading with a scanner, at various engine loads.
And, did you check to see if the EGR valve is stuck open? That would make it hard to start, and cause it to stall at idle.
It would make sense to check the fuel pressure. It would make sense to find out why the MAF isn't working right. If the MAF reading is irrational, based on a comparison to the speed-density derived mass flow, it sets the code. If the MAF is reading significantly lower than actual flow, its going to show "lean" to the O2 sensors, and the long term fuel corrections will not be able to correct the condition, setting the "lean" codes. I would check the MAF reading with a scanner, at various engine loads.
And, did you check to see if the EGR valve is stuck open? That would make it hard to start, and cause it to stall at idle.
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