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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 12:55 AM
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11s N/A for under 3.5K

I was wondering who here hit the 11s with no power adders (no nitrous) and spent less than $3500?? If anybody...
I want to know how easy it is to hit the elevens naturally aspirated.
Old Jun 13, 2003 | 01:43 AM
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It would be easier with an auto... assuming the tranny and rear hold together I would do it this way...

160 thermo 20
CAI 150
3000-3500 stall 500
ET streets 350
3.73 150
Rear-end Girdle 150
Longtube headers 500
cutout 25
Port stock heads 500
cc306 cam 250
1.6RR 200
valve springs 50
30lbs SVO's 200
58mm TB 300
Tuning 150

That's about 3.5k and should land you in the area of 400rwhp which should easily be enough for 11's with a 1.5-1.8 60'

Keep in mind that you can find most of that stuff cheaper on ebay
Old Jun 13, 2003 | 02:00 AM
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but if you can't do all that yourself...

your looking at about an extra 10k for installation...
Old Jun 13, 2003 | 02:12 AM
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Gut your car!!!!! Take everything that doesn't need to be in there for that straight shot OUT!!! Don't drink so much beer, for a month or two. and do a couple bolt ons and cam and such like slayn said. No problem!! Good luck.
Old Jun 13, 2003 | 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by Slayn
It would be easier with an auto... assuming the tranny and rear hold together I would do it this way...

160 thermo 20
CAI 150
3000-3500 stall 500
ET streets 350
3.73 150
Rear-end Girdle 150
Longtube headers 500
cutout 25
Port stock heads 500
cc306 cam 250
1.6RR 200
valve springs 50
30lbs SVO's 200
58mm TB 300
Tuning 150

That's about 3.5k and should land you in the area of 400rwhp which should easily be enough for 11's with a 1.5-1.8 60'

Keep in mind that you can find most of that stuff cheaper on ebay
No need for the 58MM TB

You must be getting a deal on P&P heads for $500. Either that or they flow like crap
Old Jun 13, 2003 | 08:51 AM
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I think there is a guy on this board who has hit 11s with just bolt ons!
Old Jun 13, 2003 | 09:04 AM
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Cmotorsports cam package- $600 after little stuff
LLoyds heads- $630
Valves- $180
Headers- $500
Converter $800
BFG Drag radials- $300

theres some room for shippin and stuff. installation costs will rape you
Old Jun 13, 2003 | 10:08 AM
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I think Trey had apost awhile ago about this.....

You will NEED some suspension if you're gonna get it. With all that power yours 60' will be awful with stock suspension. You gotta throw in an extra $600 or so just to suspension (SFCs, STB. PHB. LCAs, etc)

With my set up I plan on hitting around 12.5....if I had gears and tires I think I could cut it down to like 12.2.....throw in a better suspension and some LTs with an ORP insteadof what I got and 11s should be made. Or you can go my route and throw in a 100 shot
Old Jun 13, 2003 | 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by 95TA8280
I think Trey had apost awhile ago about this.....

You will NEED some suspension if you're gonna get it. With all that power yours 60' will be awful with stock suspension. You gotta throw in an extra $600 or so just to suspension (SFCs, STB. PHB. LCAs, etc)

With my set up I plan on hitting around 12.5....if I had gears and tires I think I could cut it down to like 12.2.....throw in a better suspension and some LTs with an ORP insteadof what I got and 11s should be made. Or you can go my route and throw in a 100 shot
yeah i actually just reread that thread yesterday. I was searching for a post by Injuneer and came across it
Old Jun 13, 2003 | 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by 95TA8280
You will NEED some suspension if you're gonna get it. With all that power yours 60' will be awful with stock suspension. You gotta throw in an extra $600 or so just to suspension (SFCs, STB. PHB. LCAs, etc)
The only thing that MIGHT be needed is LCAs and relocation brackets. The stock TA/PHR are fine and SFCs is a personal choice. SFCs are heavy. Think about loosing the weight and then worry about other stuff. I say you could get to the 11s but it will take more than 3500, if you have a 6spd you will eventually need a 12bolt/9" so there is $2500ish.

Alot of the quotes given up top do not include alot of stuff....and it is cheaper to buy tools and do it yourself!!!

Good luck, with the right luck anything is possible....like me, I got lucky and run pretty good with just 355 cubes compared to some 383+ motors....
Old Jun 13, 2003 | 01:58 PM
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The only thing that MIGHT be needed is LCAs and relocation brackets. The stock TA/PHR are fine and SFCs is a personal choice. SFCs are heavy. Think about loosing the weight and then worry about other stuff.
Are you insane, SFC's are a must unless you want a twisted chassis. If you get the ones from slotcarracing.com, they cost about $85 and are all you will need. Oh and they pretty light compared to those overpriced heavy double diamond junks that SLP sells.

As far as suspension goes, I would go with a Spohn torque arm from Spohn with spherical rod ends, Wolfe racecraft spherical rod end adjustable lower control arms, and a set of subframe connectors from slotcarracing.com and that'll be all that you would need. Don't buy a strut tower brace, it's useless at the drag strip.
Old Jun 13, 2003 | 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by zmanlt1
Are you insane, SFC's are a must unless you want a twisted chassis. If you get the ones from slotcarracing.com, they cost about $85 and are all you will need. Oh and they pretty light compared to those overpriced heavy double diamond junks that SLP sells.

As far as suspension goes, I would go with a Spohn torque arm from Spohn with spherical rod ends, Wolfe racecraft spherical rod end adjustable lower control arms, and a set of subframe connectors from slotcarracing.com and that'll be all that you would need. Don't buy a strut tower brace, it's useless at the drag strip.
Matter of opinion, Greenbeen (LT1 BO Shootout winner did it with no SFCs and Shorties ) He has also pulled 1.5s on the spray with no SFCs....I have them, would not have them knowing what I know now...

Aftermarket TAs are just too heavy. Go to an NHRA event when the stockers are there, you tell me what aftermarket parts they have in the suspension....running 10s...
Old Jun 13, 2003 | 02:10 PM
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If you don't install it urself or get someone to do it for free, ur gonna have trouble. In an lt1 car ur gonna need to make a whole lotta pwr. And this will require a cam that is gonnna make a daily driver a SOB.
with a good cam and decent heads/intake you should reach your goal with sticky's in an auto.
BTW My heads on my car flow real well, but i need more lift. I make 381 at the wheels. Just to give u an idea of what kinda pwr ur gonna need to make...of course auto and sticky's mean lower et's but this gives u an idea.

good luck
Old Jun 13, 2003 | 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by JohnsSS
In an lt1 car ur gonna need to make a whole lotta pwr.
good luck
Keep in mind, Power to weight ratio, less weight means not as much power needed to get from point A to B...Stock LT1s with BOs can go 11s in the right air and with the right set up. But if you are not willing to give up somethings then it takes more HP mods, ie Cam, maybe heads. And going to a cam does not mean the DD duty has to end. Just means the fun begins!!!
Old Jun 13, 2003 | 05:05 PM
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No need for the 58MM TB
Scratch the TB and put the money in LLoyds heads then



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