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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by RE AND CHERYL
SLP built ALL the SS and Firehawk F bodies

The HP bump in those cars was due to the cat back system installed by SLP. The SS Ram Air hood did little to nothing for power.

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Sorry but you are wrong. SLP personally put all the mods on 96 thru 98 or 99 SSes. After that the base SS equipment (shocks, swaybar, tires/wheels, and catback) was installed at the GM plant. The car was then shipped to SLP for the hood and spoiler only. Any ungrades to the base SS package wer done at SLP.
GM and SLP jointly decided that it was silly to install stock components at the factory only to ship them to SLP and take them back off.
Old Oct 28, 2007 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by RE AND CHERYL
SLP built ALL the SS and Firehawk F bodies

The HP bump in those cars was due to the cat back system installed by SLP. The SS Ram Air hood did little to nothing for power.

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I know that SLP had a hand in the SS cars. What I meant to say was there wouldn't be enough of a difference to mater when comparing a Z28 to the same year SS; Assuming that the SS hadn't been fully optioned by SLP.

I don't recall the exact details of the parts that made the package (CME? etc?), but there were SSes that were being sold rated with 20 more horsepower than the rating that GM was placing on the regular SSes. I would guess that the extra parts going into these cars to raise the rating 20 horsepower would constitute some amount of an advantage.

Old Oct 28, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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A blackwing lid and the dual/dual were the only 2 power adding mods that I can remember from the SLP optioned models.

The rest were suspension, tires, and appearance. The extra 20 hp was more of a marketing gimick like the SS being rated higher than the Z28 and the C5 being rated higher than any run of the mill f-body.
Old Oct 28, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Greed4Speed
A blackwing lid and the dual/dual were the only 2 power adding mods that I can remember from the SLP optioned models.

The rest were suspension, tires, and appearance. The extra 20 hp was more of a marketing gimick like the SS being rated higher than the Z28 and the C5 being rated higher than any run of the mill f-body.
A real pet peeve of mine

Not a single person who has been around LS1s would disagree with the statement that a lid and catback swap would easily be worth 20HP as rated at the engine. But the Z28 vs SS arguement comes up all the time... The SS/WS6, while having the same base V8 engine, DOES MAKE MORE POWER because of these additions.
Old Oct 28, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
A real pet peeve of mine

Not a single person who has been around LS1s would disagree with the statement that a lid and catback swap would easily be worth 20HP as rated at the engine. But the Z28 vs SS arguement comes up all the time... The SS/WS6, while having the same base V8 engine, DOES MAKE MORE POWER because of these additions.
That would be true, but most SS's and no WS6's (that I know of) came with these OPTIONS. The stock LS1 SS/WS6 had a different muffler with the same 2.75" piping and crappy air lid that Z's and Formy's had.
Old Oct 28, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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who cares..almost every camaro/transam on the road today has cut off their stock exhaust, haha
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
A real pet peeve of mine

Not a single person who has been around LS1s would disagree with the statement that a lid and catback swap would easily be worth 20HP as rated at the engine. But the Z28 vs SS arguement comes up all the time... The SS/WS6, while having the same base V8 engine, DOES MAKE MORE POWER because of these additions.
I won't argue that IF the SS/WS6 is optioned with the lid and exhaust, it will make more power/be slightly faster. I have an issue with the asshats that delude people (like the OP) into thinking that the SS/WS6 is different, or somehow more powerful than a Z28/Formy with the same options.
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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I won't argue that IF the SS/WS6 is optioned with the lid and exhaust, it will make more power/be slightly faster. I have an issue with the asshats that delude people (like the OP) into thinking that the SS/WS6 is different, or somehow more powerful than a Z28/Formy with the same options.
Old Nov 4, 2007 | 08:52 AM
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I totally agree. The greater advertised Hp ratings was a marketing ploy. It apparently is still working.
Old Nov 10, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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and bigger brakes

I recently watched a show on Spike where they were showing exactly what SLP added to the SS and bigger brakes was one of the upgrades.

Obviously that doesn't add power, but I found it interesting that the SS came with bigger brakes than the Z.

I've never been impressed with my Z's stopping power. Maybe I need bigger brakes (I still have stock rotors on my 2000).
Old Nov 10, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by matthew7hayes
I recently watched a show on Spike where they were showing exactly what SLP added to the SS and bigger brakes was one of the upgrades.

Obviously that doesn't add power, but I found it interesting that the SS came with bigger brakes than the Z.


Spike TV is incorrect...

The SS and Z28 had the same brakes. Any stopping advantage an SS would have over a Z28 would be in the tires. The SS's tires were wider, hence more grip when stopping.
Old Nov 10, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by matthew7hayes
I recently watched a show on Spike where they were showing exactly what SLP added to the SS and bigger brakes was one of the upgrades.

Obviously that doesn't add power, but I found it interesting that the SS came with bigger brakes than the Z.

I've never been impressed with my Z's stopping power. Maybe I need bigger brakes (I still have stock rotors on my 2000).
Compltely bogus info. Brakes are the same throughout all LS1 F-bodys.
Old Nov 10, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by matthew7hayes
I recently watched a show on Spike where they were showing exactly what SLP added to the SS and bigger brakes was one of the upgrades.


Is anyone else about tired of the info Spike's Powerblock puts out there?
Old Nov 10, 2007 | 07:51 PM
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I only wish they came with larger rotors.



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