what were the conditions at the track though. you cant tell me your car ran a 13.1 stock and claim it is all quick as hell if it was like 60 degrees outside. temp, track condition, humidity, wind all that factor into how fast your car can be. whos to say to you didnt have a 25 mph tail wind, i wouldnt know that. my 98 ls1 ran a 13.6 at 101 the only time i went to the track, and that is with a 2.02 60 foot on street tiresand i had a whisper lid on at that point. but then again it was like 80 degrees out side with a slight cross wind. all i am saying is that a 13.8 and if you look for stock numbers on a 98-00 ls1 they say that it runs about 13.5-.7 . also you have a ram air hood i know that it doesnt help all that much due to the tiny slot the air has to travel through, but it does make the air go straight from the outside into the engine intead of bounging off the hot radiator.

by the way about the puncuation sorry was in a hurry did't really think about it.

 

You should come run my car and my buddy's '96 T/A then............since "LT1's run 13.8's and LS1's run low 13's". I'm certainly not going to say that none of them do, BUT you can't just generalize and say that "LT1's are nowhere close to LS1's"............case in point: MY car - 14.129 @ 101...............friend's T/A: 14.7?? @ ~98. After that, I would have liked a 13.8!! And yet I know there are guys with LT1's that do run about the same as my car (bone stock), so you can compare the two --- maybe some are fire-crackers, and others are "lazy", but there is no written "guarantee" that an LS1 will "smoke" an LT1 --- and also, everything depends on all of the conditions...............................both times I've run my car this year, I've either had poor traction (1st run, track "A") or extreme high heat and humidity (2nd run, track "B"). So who knows if it was the track conditions, or "environmental" conditions, but my LS1 (with a new lid and K&N filter) has still only run a best of 14.008 @ 102.99mph. And although 2.73's are (EDIT) not the best gear for the 1/4 mile, there are lots of guys on this board who are (claiming??) to run 13's with their cars bone-stock, so it can be done with 2.73's.

 

Well, I never underestimated the LT1 or put it down. Like I said, I often wondered if my LT1 car was a freak running 12.80s with just bolt ons and naturally aspirated. I just know many people spend a lo of money to even hit 310 hp on an lt1, and the ls1 cars came with it. Seems like I should be faster is all I am saying. Not faster than that 12.80 mind you, but faster than my lt1 car was stock. Given it was 3.23 and t tops, but still....

 

The topic of this thread is out of line. With ram air and a Flowmaster muffler my 97 LT1 went 13.550 @ 102.50. The day before the car pulled a low 243 hp on the dyno. Like everyone else is pointing out, there are many factors that affect track times. Weather, Track Prep, Weight, Barometric Pressure, Temperature, Elevation, etc.

An LT1 with 243 Horse power and 3.23 gears will beat a stock LS1 A-4 convertable with 310 horse power and 2.73 gears every day because an LT1 makes loads of torque down low and will use that torque three times during the quarter mile. Where as the LS1 makes lots of horse power in the high rpm range and with 2.73 gears will only use that horse power 2 times due to the gear ratio. Keep running out to a half mile and the LS1 will walk the LT1 considerably.....

 

I don't think my topic is out of line. I think it is more than fair to ask why I didn't get better times on the car than what I did. I asked, you guys answered (although many of you seem to have hurt feelings about it). I know why it ran like it did now, so the topic served its purpose.
For the record, I agree it's not all in HP. That 12.8 I ran with my LT1 was with only 278 rwhp according to the dyno..