Those 5 free mods in GMHTP
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Originally posted by 2001SilverZ28
Descreening the MAF is not a good idea.
1. There's something that could always get past the filter and go in there
2. The screen also straightens out the airflow
I doubt you'll see any gain in doing it, so why do it?
Descreening the MAF is not a good idea.
1. There's something that could always get past the filter and go in there
2. The screen also straightens out the airflow
I doubt you'll see any gain in doing it, so why do it?
I kinda messed mine up getting it out
I agree w/ your statements.....
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Originally posted by Greed4Speed
If something is small enough to get past the filter, then that screen isn't going to do much to stop it.
If it was so important, why do the new LS6 MAFs not have it?
If something is small enough to get past the filter, then that screen isn't going to do much to stop it.
If it was so important, why do the new LS6 MAFs not have it?
The maf screen caught it, but shoot.. I wonder what it would have done if it would have made it up into the engine... probably just turned into a pasty goo'ey mush.
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Originally posted by Greed4Speed
If something is small enough to get past the filter, then that screen isn't going to do much to stop it.
If it was so important, why do the new LS6 MAFs not have it?
If something is small enough to get past the filter, then that screen isn't going to do much to stop it.
If it was so important, why do the new LS6 MAFs not have it?
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Originally posted by 350 HRSS
Well, I don't think they are worthless if they were in GM HTP, and did show a NET gain of 10 rwhp. I can see the logic in them all.
Yeah, headers, cam, ect. are great mods, my Z is heavily modded, but doing some for FREE and getting a small gain is nice.
Well, I don't think they are worthless if they were in GM HTP, and did show a NET gain of 10 rwhp. I can see the logic in them all.
Yeah, headers, cam, ect. are great mods, my Z is heavily modded, but doing some for FREE and getting a small gain is nice.
any hp increase is good I suppose and they arent worthless mods. On a more serious thought though, it isnt worth the 10hp gain if something is messed up in the process. Getting the throttle to be exactly in the middle for 1 or 2 horsepower seems crazy to me. I have the highflow bellows which are supposed to add 5, the tbyrn maf ends which is supposed to be 6-8, the granatelli maf, supposedly 10, and some other small stuff. All that crap was over 700 bucks. I feel nothing!!! absolutely nothing!! what do i have to buy to give me more! i'm thinkin headers will do the trick.
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Originally posted by FastrDamnit!
These mods are all pretty easy to do but if you have an auto DO NOT PORT THE MAF sensor (descreening is OK though). Porting the MAF does indeed soften the 4L60E's shifts I noticed a significant difference when I put the stock MAF ends back on in place of the ported ones.
These mods are all pretty easy to do but if you have an auto DO NOT PORT THE MAF sensor (descreening is OK though). Porting the MAF does indeed soften the 4L60E's shifts I noticed a significant difference when I put the stock MAF ends back on in place of the ported ones.
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Originally posted by Lan01z
Oh, alright, they arent worthless mods. I'm just disappointed with the overall result of similar mods on my car. I'm wanting a seat of my pants increase in horsepower and I'm throwing gobs of money at it. I'm not feelin it with the 5 GM HTP mods. 10hp just isnt enough for me any hp increase is good I suppose and they arent worthless mods. On a more serious thought though, it isnt worth the 10hp gain if something is messed up in the process. Getting the throttle to be exactly in the middle for 1 or 2 horsepower seems crazy to me.
I have the highflow bellows which are supposed to add 5, the tbyrn maf ends which is supposed to be 6-8, the granatelli maf, supposedly 10, and some other small stuff. All that crap was over 700 bucks. I feel nothing!!! absolutely nothing!! what do i have to buy to give me more! i'm thinkin headers will do the trick.
Oh, alright, they arent worthless mods. I'm just disappointed with the overall result of similar mods on my car. I'm wanting a seat of my pants increase in horsepower and I'm throwing gobs of money at it. I'm not feelin it with the 5 GM HTP mods. 10hp just isnt enough for me
any hp increase is good I suppose and they arent worthless mods. On a more serious thought though, it isnt worth the 10hp gain if something is messed up in the process. Getting the throttle to be exactly in the middle for 1 or 2 horsepower seems crazy to me. I have the highflow bellows which are supposed to add 5, the tbyrn maf ends which is supposed to be 6-8, the granatelli maf, supposedly 10, and some other small stuff. All that crap was over 700 bucks. I feel nothing!!! absolutely nothing!! what do i have to buy to give me more! i'm thinkin headers will do the trick.
And good experience. The things you bought for *mods*are not going to give you SOTP feel. I went through that crap w/ my LT1. You can't add the HP together. The MAF you didn't need.
And MAF ends. You could have spent that on headers, or a cam!
Either way....good luck!
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Originally posted by 350 HRSS
The only reason I said they were significant, is b/c they were free And good experience. The things you bought for *mods*
are not going to give you SOTP feel. I went through that crap w/ my LT1. You can't add the HP together. The MAF you didn't need.
And MAF ends. You could have spent that on headers, or a cam!
Either way....good luck!
The only reason I said they were significant, is b/c they were free
And good experience. The things you bought for *mods*are not going to give you SOTP feel. I went through that crap w/ my LT1. You can't add the HP together. The MAF you didn't need.
And MAF ends. You could have spent that on headers, or a cam!
Either way....good luck!
Some guy on this site, "tims camaro" had the granatelli and it added like 15 on his dyno. Thats why i bought that thing. I'm ultimatly gonna have headers and the electric cutout, so those should be SOTP adders i'm hoping
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Originally posted by Lan01z
My dad used to be a mechanic and he tells me to stay away from getting a cam. He said an engine will never be the same after you crack the seal on it. You'll have oil leaks and other problems from then on. I figured headers wouldnt mess anything up, and I've got money to spend. I was just looking at what other people had done to get horsepower, and those were things they had added.
Some guy on this site, "tims camaro" had the granatelli and it added like 15 on his dyno. Thats why i bought that thing. I'm ultimatly gonna have headers and the electric cutout, so those should be SOTP adders i'm hoping
My dad used to be a mechanic and he tells me to stay away from getting a cam. He said an engine will never be the same after you crack the seal on it. You'll have oil leaks and other problems from then on. I figured headers wouldnt mess anything up, and I've got money to spend. I was just looking at what other people had done to get horsepower, and those were things they had added.
Some guy on this site, "tims camaro" had the granatelli and it added like 15 on his dyno. Thats why i bought that thing. I'm ultimatly gonna have headers and the electric cutout, so those should be SOTP adders i'm hoping
You won't have any oil leaks, ect. if you have the RIGHT person install it, who knows what they are doing. And possibly getting it tuned. LS1s respond so well to cams, heads, ect. I don't know what "problems from then on" he is talking about. I have had 2 cams in my LT1, and NO oil leaks.B/c I had a very trustworthy mechanic.
Anyway, good luck
And you will love the headers. Get the LT's instead of the shorties, if you can
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Originally posted by 350 HRSS
Well, bolt-ons are only going to get you so far. I understand you trust your dad 100%, I do mine You won't have any oil leaks, ect. if you have the RIGHT person install it, who knows what they are doing. And possibly getting it tuned. LS1s respond so well to cams, heads, ect. I don't know what "problems from then on" he is talking about. I have had 2 cams in my LT1, and NO oil leaks.
B/c I had a very trustworthy mechanic.
Anyway, good luck And you will love the headers. Get the LT's instead of the shorties, if you can
Well, bolt-ons are only going to get you so far. I understand you trust your dad 100%, I do mine
You won't have any oil leaks, ect. if you have the RIGHT person install it, who knows what they are doing. And possibly getting it tuned. LS1s respond so well to cams, heads, ect. I don't know what "problems from then on" he is talking about. I have had 2 cams in my LT1, and NO oil leaks.B/c I had a very trustworthy mechanic.
Anyway, good luck
And you will love the headers. Get the LT's instead of the shorties, if you can
well, the problems from then on was really just meaning problems with oil leaks from then on
I like the idea of a cam, but i read all kinds of stuff on the springs and other stuff, and apparently you have to let the car warm up first because the stock stuff is more forgiving than the high performance??? I dunno, it just turned me away a little bit. I'd love to get a supercharger and add 100 *drool*
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Anyway, good luck And you will love the headers. Get the LT's instead of the shorties, if you can [/B][/QUOTE]
http://www.quicktimeperformance.com/
I'm getting these headers, and the electric cutout as well
LT's baby!
And you will love the headers. Get the LT's instead of the shorties, if you can [/B][/QUOTE] http://www.quicktimeperformance.com/
I'm getting these headers, and the electric cutout as well
LT's baby!
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Originally posted by Black01_Z
I think thats your imagination. A ported MAF will in no way affect shift firmness. How could you justify that besides wht you feel. There is no physical explanation. Mine is just the same as before when I ported and descreened the MAF.
I think thats your imagination. A ported MAF will in no way affect shift firmness. How could you justify that besides wht you feel. There is no physical explanation. Mine is just the same as before when I ported and descreened the MAF.
You may not notice the difference now, but give it time.
Don't believe me fine, try pulling a search on this LS1 tech forum (or on LS1.com or LS1tech.com forums for that matter) and you'll hear the same thing.
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