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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 11:34 PM
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I run a bone stock 00 SS 6 speed. I have raced many other stock C5's of all years, and have never come close to losing to them.

I have also run 2 (unsure of year) Z06's. Both Z06 races were neck and neck till both other guys pulled off at just over 100 MPH.

I am in VA, so anyone driving a C5 in VA, I would welcome a run....Z06 guys/gals welcome as well.
Old Jul 30, 2005 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by lytmup
I run a bone stock 00 SS 6 speed. I have raced many other stock C5's of all years, and have never come close to losing to them.

I have also run 2 (unsure of year) Z06's. Both Z06 races were neck and neck till both other guys pulled off at just over 100 MPH.

I am in VA, so anyone driving a C5 in VA, I would welcome a run....Z06 guys/gals welcome as well.
Considering most Z06s will run 112 or better in the 1/4, and a stock SS might hit 106-108, I don't see a neck and neck race.
Old Jul 30, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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A lot of it is driver..
I too havent lost to a C5.. Against Z06's I am 2-1.. 2 wins 1 loss. One win and one loss at the track.. and a win on the street..

Weight is a factor to an extent. On a C5, although it is lighter it doesnt put the power down as efficiently so in some cases, it wont have the power an Fbod has.

My neighbor just picked up an 02 Z06.. Hopefully soon we will hit the track and see how it fares..


Now for the 0-60.. I have hit sub 5 sec 0-60 times on the street and the track all on street tires not drag radials.. Again.. DRIVER. 4.6 is my personal best. with 4.7 being my average.

My times are above 13.1@108.. and thats with horrific 60ft times of 2.0 and the car FULL of gas as I never hit the track without a FULL tank of gas. Car weight 3400. I weight 190. 28psi in rear tires. I will be filling the fronts with a bit more air next trip. I normally have 32 but will shoot to over 44 next time.. rears will stay around 26-28 psi.. Launching at 4000-4500 to see if the tranny after 63K miles can hold it.. If so, my bone stock Z28 should post 12.8's. I will find out soon and post.
Old Jul 30, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 97WS6SCharged
02 Camaro owner = Mullett

02 Corvette owner = $$$$

Short version... You get laid more with a Vette.
A mullet is worth .3 in the 1/4 on a Maro. Just like a polyester shirt half buttoned works for Screamin' Chickens. Brings to mind Napoleon's Uncle.
Old Jul 30, 2005 | 11:45 AM
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A joke, yet, its the truth when it comes to pulling tail. There are plenty of guys on CorvetteForum with very close to stock C5's (minimal bolt ons) running mid 12's and trapping 114-116. I've never seen an f-body do that with a lid and a catback. My C5 has put a bad hurting on many of my f-body friends, and other than a few free mods, an LS6 intake and exhaust, its stock. I'm willing to bet alot of you who beat these C5's were racing cars that weren't trying as hard back. C5's have a HUGE weight advantage, and a far superior suspension setup. CryptKeepers car on LS1tech (99 FRC) has gone 11.71@119mph with a CAI, longtubes, and decent tires. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

Oh, and before I get flamed to death, I'm not biased, I own both. And I've had 4 V8 4th gen f-bodies before this, so I'd say I'm qualified.
Where are you getting these "HUGE" weight advantage numbers? Everything I have read says the Vette is between 50-100lbs lighter. I'll pull out my spare and some other odds and ends and be right there.
Old Jul 30, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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Stock vs stock the Vette should beat an f-body in a drag race, due to it weighing a few hundred pounds less. However, launching the IRS can be tricky. It's normally a driver's race between the two

Around an autocross course though, the Vette will shine bright over the f-body

Most f-bodys will dyno higher than LS1 Vette's though, due to the drivetrain
Old Jul 30, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Strahley
Stock vs stock the Vette should beat an f-body in a drag race, due to it weighing a few hundred pounds less. However, launching the IRS can be tricky. It's normally a driver's race between the two

Most f-bodys will dyno higher than LS1 Vette's though, due to the drivetrain

These 2 statements contradict each other. The C5 weighs a little less, but has less HP at the wheel and yet it should beat and F-body in a drag race???
The IRS is what hurts the C5 in drags, but it also wasn't designed for that purpose.
Old Jul 30, 2005 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 97WS6SCharged
Considering most Z06s will run 112 or better in the 1/4, and a stock SS might hit 106-108, I don't see a neck and neck race.
A bone stock Z06 wont run 11 second quarter-mile times. Where are you getting your information?

I am telling you that the only two street races (from a dead stop at a stop light) that I have had with Z06's, I ran them neck and neck until the guys backed off at 100 MPH.
Old Jul 30, 2005 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by lytmup
A bone stock Z06 wont run 11 second quarter-mile times. Where are you getting your information?
Your wrong, plenty of 02 and above bone stock Z06's have run into the 11's. Not that magazine times mean jack but, even GM High Tech Performance took a Bone Stock 04 Z06 into the elevens at 117 mph plus.
Old Jul 30, 2005 | 11:42 PM
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[QUOTE=lytmup]A bone stock Z06 wont run 11 second quarter-mile times. Where are you getting your information?



He said 112 trap speeds in the 1/4. You can't always equate et and mph.

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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick 02 Z06
Your wrong, plenty of 02 and above bone stock Z06's have run into the 11's. Not that magazine times mean jack but, even GM High Tech Performance took a Bone Stock 04 Z06 into the elevens at 117 mph plus.


http://www.gmhightechperformance.com..._zo/index.html
Old Jul 31, 2005 | 12:55 AM
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Considering most Z06s will run 112 or better in the 1/4, and a stock SS might hit 106-108, I don't see a neck and neck race.
Originally Posted by lytmup
A bone stock Z06 wont run 11 second quarter-mile times. Where are you getting your information?

I am telling you that the only two street races (from a dead stop at a stop light) that I have had with Z06's, I ran them neck and neck until the guys backed off at 100 MPH.
So where did I say a bone stock Z06 will run into the 11's? I said they will run faster than 112 on most occasions. BTW, did you look under the hood or at the option list for the cars you supposedly raced? Z06 screens, wheels, and side vents are a common addition to most LS1 C5s these days.

Look at it like this, a Z06 is lighter than an SS, has better aerodynamics, more power, and the same rear end gearing as the SS with a transmission geared for acceleration. You do the math.
Old Jul 31, 2005 | 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 97WS6SCharged
So where did I say a bone stock Z06 will run into the 11's? I said they will run faster than 112 on most occasions. BTW, did you look under the hood or at the option list for the cars you supposedly raced? Z06 screens, wheels, and side vents are a common addition to most LS1 C5s these days.

Look at it like this, a Z06 is lighter than an SS, has better aerodynamics, more power, and the same rear end gearing as the SS with a transmission geared for acceleration. You do the math.
It's not even close. My friend has a stock 04 z06 and runs 12.20 all day long and he's 100 percent stock. The SS might fair a little better with the 01 Z06 which had 385 hp, but if the driver has any clue on what he's doing, he's going to pull away in either car.
Old Jul 31, 2005 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by lytmup
A bone stock Z06 wont run 11 second quarter-mile times. Where are you getting your information?

I am telling you that the only two street races (from a dead stop at a stop light) that I have had with Z06's, I ran them neck and neck until the guys backed off at 100 MPH.
I wasnt a believer either until I found out more about them.. Turns out there are a few Z06 drivers that know how to drive and are turning bone stock 11.9-11.8 times..

A couple of them are here in Houston..
Old Jul 31, 2005 | 09:46 AM
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I think the orginal question was the base C5, not Z06 so this is all a mute point.

The only way a stock f-bod could outrun a Z06 is if the z06 driver can't drive. These are cars that put down at least ~70 more whp in stock form.

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