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rich or lean...how do i check???

Old Nov 14, 2002 | 10:50 AM
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rich or lean...how do i check???

topic says it all

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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 11:57 AM
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ok may b the topic doesnt say it all...

how do i know if im runnin lean or rich???

there that should say it all
Old Nov 14, 2002 | 12:56 PM
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well you could do a wide band on a dyno. or by eyesight when you get on it if black smoke comes out the exhaust your running rich. only way that i know to see if your runnning rich or lean other than that would be to pull you rplugs and inspect them.
Old Nov 14, 2002 | 02:52 PM
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You'll need some dyno pulls with a wideband, or get yourself and AutoTap or other PCM communication device to read in real time.
Old Nov 14, 2002 | 03:55 PM
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Uhh, are you people serious?? Getting a dyno just to find out if your rich or lean? LOL, give me a break. Air/Fuel gauge will tell you if your running rich or lean. I'm not talking about the nice Autometer one with the nice lights either. Actually get one that tells you your o2 voltage. I don't have a Camaro but on my car .93v and above is rich. You can also get an EGT gauge and use it hand in hand with an air/fuel gauge. Once again, on my car, the perfect temperature is around 1400degrees. Anything above i'm either running rich or lean. That's where the air/fuel gauge comes in, it can tell you how rich or lean your running. In order to fix richness/leaness you will need to add some sort of fuel pressure regulator. I use Aeromotive and it works nicely. Good luck
Old Nov 15, 2002 | 12:25 AM
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he asked how? so dynoing is one way correct ok then noone said it was the only way say your peice and move on thank you.

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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 03:38 AM
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she asked how so dynoing is one way correct ok then noone said it was the only way say your peice and move on thank you.
Sorry, I just thought it was kinda funny and rather pathetic that you guys would actually tell someone to do a dyno run just to find out if they are running rich or lean. That has to be one of the dumbest things i've ever heard. I believe that is why Autometer is in business. They make gauges for people to moniter stuff like this at all times. True, he did ask for "ways" to tell but I think he wanted the most sensible way. People get dyno'd to see how much power they have and for precise tuning. Not to actually check if they are running rich or lean. That's like going to Sears just to check if your tires are properly inflated.
Old Nov 15, 2002 | 04:20 AM
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what's to say he doesn't want to add gauges to her car! he just wants to see if his car is running rich or lean and for the price of getting a dyno run it is not a big deal. 75 bucks run your car find out how it is running and how much power. wich is much better than putting gauges in your car if you don't want gauges. the price of gauges would be just as much as a dyno run and if you go to a good dyno they will even fix wether your car is lean or rich can your stupid gauge fix your rich or lean problem i think not! why knock other members just say what you think should be done and go with that no need to be an a$$ if you want to disgrace or talk bad about other members go back to your high school and be childish somewhere else.

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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 04:23 AM
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and if you don't have a camaro or know about ls1's why again are you here?
Old Nov 15, 2002 | 06:38 AM
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ok thanX people.

oh and who's she???
Old Nov 15, 2002 | 07:16 AM
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sorry man i will fix all that my fault sorry thought it said nikki lol oopsy
Old Nov 15, 2002 | 08:04 AM
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Uhh, are you people serious?? Getting a dyno just to find out if your rich or lean? LOL, give me a break. Air/Fuel gauge will tell you if your running rich or lean. I'm not talking about the nice Autometer one with the nice lights either. Actually get one that tells you your o2 voltage.
Just a word of caution about A/F gauges and O2 voltage, on the F-body the O2 sensor is notorious for giving inconsistent readings. Two cars that appear to be running at 14.7 A/F ratio will give different O2 voltage readings, the sensor is just not that accurate. One car may give you 0.45 volts, another 0.6, another 0.3 just while the car is idling. And since your O2 voltage with respect to rich or lean is not a linear relationship, if the sensor is off by 0.2volts it can make a big difference.

For a much more accurate reading, getting on a wideband is a great solution. $50 for 3 pulls here.

An In-Car Air Fuel gauge is good for giving you a vague idea of what end of the spectrum your car is running on, but should not be taken as fact and should not be used for tuning.

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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 08:15 AM
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sorry man i will fix all that my fault sorry thought it said nikki lol oopsy
hahaa no prob...i was just wonderin who the female was.
sometimes i wish i had ***** of my own


and thanX 96fbirdA4
Old Nov 15, 2002 | 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by 96fbirdA4
Just a word of caution about A/F gauges and O2 voltage, on the F-body the O2 sensor is notorious for giving inconsistent readings. Two cars that appear to be running at 14.7 A/F ratio will give different O2 voltage readings, the sensor is just not that accurate. One car may give you 0.45 volts, another 0.6, another 0.3 just while the car is idling. And since your O2 voltage with respect to rich or lean is not a linear relationship, if the sensor is off by 0.2volts it can make a big difference.

For a much more accurate reading, getting on a wideband is a great solution. $50 for 3 pulls here.

An In-Car Air Fuel gauge is good for giving you a vague idea of what end of the spectrum your car is running on, but should not be taken as fact and should not be used for tuning.
Do you know how an air/fuel gauge works? First of all, they don't tell you **** at idle. They are suppose to go from rich to lean while at idle. It's a sign your fuel injectetion is working properly. You only get the correct readings while at WOT, for those of you that are stupid, while its floored. If anyone is running 14.7v from an o2 sensor something is wrong. If you say your o2's are off in your car then that would be a good reason to use a EGT, exhaust gas temp. with it. The fact that someone said to get a dyno to find out o2 voltage is sad but its even worse that the rest of the Camaro world is backing it up.
Old Nov 15, 2002 | 11:27 AM
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and if you don't have a camaro or know about ls1's why again are you here?
I came here because my girlfriend bought a z28 so I was wanting to learn more about the cars. If you guys think it's a good idea to do a dyno run for o2 voltage then I doubt I will learn anything here. It saddens me that you big bad v8 ls1 owners know so little in general about cars. Seems like most of you know what you've heard or read. Most of you are running high 12's to mid 13's with mods. Uhh, last I checked the SS runs high 12's to mid 13's stock and the z28 isn't far off that mark. I can make a 16 second car run 12's...I KNOW

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