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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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whenever i feel down i just come and read this thread... This is pretty darn funny... As you were gents.
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by cody_98a4
Awesome!! Now I can ask you all my questions!!! Haha , well I know my car was appraised at 75k, and I really don't care if that one guy thinks i'm lying!! I've been in the car business for a long time, but it's nice to find someone as knowledgable about these cars as you...I'll send you some pics of my baby as soon as I can! The car was originally hit in the fender and I bought it at a Auction in Indianapolis, and I own a little body shop, so I fixed it for next to nothin, now I got a badass vette, that most people don't know what it even is!! Thats why I usually don't even say, because most people just say like you did , "thats BS, no corvette comes with all that stock" It's not worth the arguement for me,
oh I also have a 69 REAL Z28 original 302 4 speed for sale on ebay right now, just to show you I deal in NICE SH**
Remember this is an F Bod forum people know what there talking about... So don't think people wont know what your talking about and calling something what its not... they will just think your lying like I did.

Originally Posted by cody_98a4
nothing changed? Everything you just quoted me on is true! It is an M6 6 speed, it does have 7500 miles, I really could care less weather or not you believe me, as you remember I came asking about my DD, my CAMARO! The reason I didn't say what it is, is because people like you always wanna argue and I don't feel like arguing about it, why should I get ridicule , because I have an extremely rare car, like I told the other guy in the last post , I have a 69Z28 302 4 speed on ebay right now it's about to end but check it out, thats the kind of cars I deal with, but i don't expect anyone to know me here so thats why I don't bring it up, cuz most people don't have the cars I do, or the money to buy them
If you don't want to argue stop arguing... Also your not impressing anyone. Now if were done with that.... to get your Camaro into the 12s just a few bolt ons will do it quite easily. I would do exactly what was stated previously, gears, converter, headers, Magnaflow etc...
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 01:29 PM
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cuz most people don't have the cars I do, or the money to buy them
OK. That kind of attitude along with your other claims and partial information/truths won't get you much advice here, or anywhere else. Secondly, there may be, just may be, a few people here that can afford your cars Finally, clean up your posts. Too much shorthand and the lack of punctuation should be reserved for 16 y/o girls texting on their phones.
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 02:40 PM
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if you have the money, why not put a good set of heads on the car with a small cam to get into the low-mid 12's with those bolt-ons and have a perfectly good daily driver car that is a lot of fun. not bashing your proposed big funds, just suggesting. Are you just really trying to keep the engine internals stock and just update the intake and exhaust systems? I'm confident all your goals could be achieved with a small cam and even budget heads.
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
OK. That kind of attitude along with your other claims and partial information/truths won't get you much advice here, or anywhere else. Secondly, there may be, just may be, a few people here that can afford your cars Finally, clean up your posts. Too much shorthand and the lack of punctuation should be reserved for 16 y/o girls texting on their phones.

attitude? you have the wrong idea, I don't have an attitude, wow I can't believe how much hate and disrespect i've received on here, you sound way to mad for the situation, chill out tough guy seriously...man, your the man!! I'll clean up my posts , Yes Sir!
no need to talk trash on me , this is how I get indroduced? Thanks for your help sir..and i'm sorry you felt the need to be a tough guy for no reason, hope you feel better!
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jmmullin
if you have the money, why not put a good set of heads on the car with a small cam to get into the low-mid 12's with those bolt-ons and have a perfectly good daily driver car that is a lot of fun. not bashing your proposed big funds, just suggesting. Are you just really trying to keep the engine internals stock and just update the intake and exhaust systems? I'm confident all your goals could be achieved with a small cam and even budget heads.

Thanks for the input man!! Actually that would be excellent, however I don't know how to do the internal work, and wouldn't know where to take it, or what to buy....you understand? Haha I'm kind of ignorant when it comes to mechanics thats why i'm here!! Anyway, money's not really a problem, its just that this is my daily driver for the time being, and I don't like the "cam lope" of my vette so I was thinking nitrous would be the best idea, also I just put a slp loudmouth exhaust on today, and figured out my car has the 3:23 gears
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by red_94z
Remember this is an F Bod forum people know what there talking about... So don't think people wont know what your talking about and calling something what its not... they will just think your lying like I did.



If you don't want to argue stop arguing... Also your not impressing anyone. Now if were done with that.... to get your Camaro into the 12s just a few bolt ons will do it quite easily. I would do exactly what was stated previously, gears, converter, headers, Magnaflow etc...
I don't care weather you belive me or not man, no need for the attitude at all ..
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by cody_98a4
figured out my car has the 3:23 gears
Just curious... how did you figure that out?
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by cody_98a4
Thanks for the input man!! Actually that would be excellent, however I don't know how to do the internal work, and wouldn't know where to take it, or what to buy....you understand? Haha I'm kind of ignorant when it comes to mechanics thats why i'm here!! Anyway, money's not really a problem, its just that this is my daily driver for the time being, and I don't like the "cam lope" of my vette so I was thinking nitrous would be the best idea, also I just put a slp loudmouth exhaust on today, and figured out my car has the 3:23 gears
Well I'm not an expert on all this stuff either, but there are several things you can do to vary the power, sound and streetability of an aftermarket camshaft. Everyone else can fill you if they don't hate you already lol. If the sound is what bothers you, then I would still recommend getting a small cam in the low to mid 22X/22X, something like the 224R from TSP...i think its TSP..(your stock Camaro has a 202/210 camshaft) To further help your issue with the noise, you can increase the LSA (Lobe Separation Angle) People like to get between 112 and 114 LSA, but for you, one in the 116-118 LSA range (if thats possible with a cam that you choose) would help dissipate the lopey sound.

How many miles are on your Z28? I don't really know much about nitrous but I've never really liked the idea of it (although I've considered it too). From what I've heard, it basically leans the engine out for a short amount of time to boost power shortly (leaning an engine obviously isn't good for long periods of time, you probably know that already). If you've got 100k miles on it already, I probably wouldn't run nitrous...(someone will tell me I'm wrong by this afternoon, just my opinion)

As for the installation of a heads and cam package, there are plenty of shops all over the place that can take care of it for you. Where are you located? If you feel like learning about your car and becoming very well acquainted with it and its engine, you could do it yourself, taking it slow over a couple of days; there are a lot of write ups on just about anything you'd ever need to do (ls1howto.com) with the LSX. Total cost of a heads/cam swap including bolt ons and a nice intake manifold and exhaust system (which you have an SLP already) with headers and completely installed professionally would be somewhere around $4500-$5000. Another $400 for a tune and you're driving on the street with an easy 400 rwhp and running low 12's at the track. If you've got that scratch, its the way to go.
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by jmmullin
I don't really know much about nitrous but I've never really liked the idea of it (although I've considered it too). From what I've heard, it basically leans the engine out for a short amount of time to boost power shortly (leaning an engine obviously isn't good for long periods of time, you probably know that already).
The above is essentially not true at all.

There are two types of nitrous systems -- dry and wet.

With a dry system, nitrous is injected into the intake somewhere. If that's all you did, it would lean out the system, which is why you have to re-tune the car to inject more fuel when you're using nitrous.

With a wet system, nitrous and fuel are injected together, with the fuel going in via a dedicated jet (or jets). This means you don't have to adjust the amount of fuel being injected by the computer.

In both cases, the additional fuel prevents the engine from leaning out. Leaning out an engine is not good for any amount of time.
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 08:27 AM
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haha see? It only took an hour thanks for clearing it up for the man (and myself too) jakerobb
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jmmullin

How many miles are on your Z28? I don't really know much about nitrous but I've never really liked the idea of it (although I've considered it too). From what I've heard, it basically leans the engine out for a short amount of time to boost power shortly (leaning an engine obviously isn't good for long periods of time, you probably know that already). If you've got 100k miles on it already, I probably wouldn't run nitrous...(someone will tell me I'm wrong by this afternoon, just my opinion)
Very Very wrong.

Nitrous splits up into oxygen/nitrogen atoms when it is heated in the bottle. When you release it, it comes out as a ton of oxygen molecules, which makes more power when you add more fuel. Just like any other power adder. More air/fuel = more power.

Dry kit = adding fuel by spraying only nitrous in front of the MAF and letting the computer add fuel using your injectors (need bigger injectors)

Wet kit = adding fuel by spraying fuel/nitrous at the same time after the MAF. The amount of fuel you spray is already calculated in the fuel jet size corresponding to the nitrous jet size.

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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 09:08 AM
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Interesting...what would the nitrogen do then? just wondering if you knew...is it flammable and therefore help combustion as well? and if yall have a safe recommendation of the number of miles on a car that is capable of running nitrous, let us hear it please. thanks
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 09:42 AM
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Interesting...what would the nitrogen do then? just wondering if you knew...is it flammable and therefore help combustion as well? and if yall have a safe recommendation of the number of miles on a car that is capable of running nitrous, let us hear it please. thanks
I can never remember exactly what role it plays. It doesn't take an active part in combustion -- nitrogen is not flammable. IIRC, it helps cool the combustion chamber and it promotes stable combustion.
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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Well then what makes nitrous so bad that causes so many people to not want to use it? Just the information like I had? lol There is undoubtedly some increase in boom in the engine so is that extra stress what causes failures?



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