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Old May 10, 2003 | 02:45 AM
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Midwest, TCI, or TSI Converter?

Hey, I'm in the market for a torque converter, and am wondering if I should get a Midwest, TCI, or TSI torque converter? And what STR? What stall speed, etc? I am looking to supercharge my car within the next year, and am currently running 3.73 gears. This is a street/strip car, and I drive mainly on the street, so I am looking for something that will ride similar to the stock convereter. Please recommend, everyone. I need the advice. Want to narrow this down asap. Yank and vigilante just seem too expensive for me. Thanks again.
Old May 10, 2003 | 03:31 AM
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I would go with the Midwest. They have become popular and are strong. You can custom build the TC to your specs. If you have a 12-bolt and running slicks, a 2.5 STR will be great. I would not go less than 3200 on the stall. I have a 3000 and it is not enough stall. I just bought a MW 3600/2.0 today to replace the Yank TT3000. The lower the STR, the softer the launches. Choosing the converter will depend on how you use the car. With supercharging, you will need the steel sprag.
Old May 10, 2003 | 11:26 AM
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I would check out a TCS converter. Alot of people are switching to them from yank and vig. They offer a 3 year warr and unlimited restalls for 3 years. ITs hard to beat that and knowbody offers anything close. I can tell you from personal experience there converters are great and there customer service is awsome. I liked there converter so much I bought there stage 3 transmission. If you do a search on the boards you should find some info or send me a msg. I would go with a 3200 -3600 stall but give them a call they will build you a converter for your setup

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Old May 10, 2003 | 01:59 PM
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I don't want a very loose converter. What STR do you guys recommend? I am thinking of a 3200 stall. TCS AND TCI recommend me going with a 2800, but I don't think that's enough stall. I'm pretty sure I'm going with a 3200 stall, but don't know about which str yet. Any info is appreciated. Please put lots of posts.
Old May 10, 2003 | 11:03 PM
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Stay the hell away from TCI, trust me. I know a couple guys that have had those TC's go out on them. As far as the stall, you're right, go at least a 3200. You'll regret anything lower.

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Old May 10, 2003 | 11:11 PM
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So, please tell me some opinions. TCI/TCS? Thanks. I've heard a lot of good stuff about TCI, but not much bad, and really nothing about TCS. I want to purchase monday, so please post away.
Old May 11, 2003 | 04:50 AM
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Like I said, I know two people that have had personal experiences with TCI TCs, and I've heard from countless others. The two guys I know, on had a lightly modded '01 TA. Tore the TC to schredds. The second guy has a little more goin. He's running a TCI with a 4000 stall and it's gettin ready to go. He keeps saying how he highly regrets going TCI and woulda rather went Yank or Vigilante.
Old May 11, 2003 | 07:18 AM
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I have the Midwest 3000 with a 2.5 STR and I also have 3.73 gears. It works great for what I need. If you plan on getting a Super Charger I would pay the extra $ 100 for the steel stator.

Also if you are looking to run at the strip a lot you might consider the 3200 or 3400 stall.

Last, you will need a shift kit and to have the torque management removed. I didn't at first but Wednesday I am taking it to LS1 Speed to have it re-programmed and the install of a shift kit.

Good Luck!

Al
Old May 11, 2003 | 06:16 PM
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I would stay away from TCI and B&M, but I dont have any experience with the other brands.
Old May 11, 2003 | 11:16 PM
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So what is the concensus on the TCS converters? I want to go with TCI for the money. There are a lot of people around here in Tulsa running the TCI with no problems. Anyone know firsthand about TCI? I hear their newer converters are better than their older ones. Thanks.

And what do you think of a 2.0 STR for the street?
Old May 12, 2003 | 06:48 AM
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A 2.0 STR is good for the street tires. I think maby a 2.1or 2.2 would still be good on the street tires and if you got a drag radials you would leave even harder..
Old May 12, 2003 | 05:39 PM
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I would go TCI. We have had a lot of success with there converters. Trevor(02 SS) is running a 3800 right now. He is cutting mid1.5s N/A with heads, cam, bolt-ons and mid 1.4s on a 100 shot. We have another guy locally running a TCI 3800 with no problems, full weight car(3820#s) and cutting low 1.6s on a 150(cam and bolt-ons). We have several other people running TCI that are very happy with the perfromance. I am installing a TCI 3500 this week. It's replacing the Yank converter that trashed my tranny.

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Old May 12, 2003 | 07:15 PM
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I just bought a TCI 3200 stall with 2.2 STR today. Should have it by the end of the week. How do you guys think that'll work out for me? Any info's appreciated, thanks. Anyone else running this same verter with 3.73 gears?
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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Re: Midwest, TCI, or TSI Converter?

TCI is a good choice. They have excellent customer service and thier torque converters are proven to gain .4 or better in the quarter mile. If you want to stay very streetable then get the SF3000 stall with the 2.2 STR. That will feel very close to stock until you punch the gas Be warned that even this "small" verter can roast street tires. It's a great street/strip verter that's geared more for the street but should knock .4 or .5 off your ET with traction.

The most popular TCI verter by far is the SSF3500 with a 2.5 STR. This is probably your best choice if you don't mind a little loosness and are willing to run on drag radials full time. Colonel over at ls1tech was pulling 1.6 60' times and mid 11 time slips on that verter with stock internals. The potential is definately there as this verter is known to knock anywhere from .5 to .7 off your ET (again with traction). It's also an excellent street/strip verter that is geared a little more to the strip. It's also an excellent verter to spay on.

Good luck and don't forget the tranny cooler.
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 11:17 AM
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Re: Midwest, TCI, or TSI Converter?

Originally Posted by robvas
Anyone dare run a converter in the snow?
Actually it's better in snow with a higer stall TC or so I have heard. Under part throttle you got the extra slipping that helps you to actually keep traction.

Just don't try and punch the gas too hard



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