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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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Re: ls1 true horspower rating?

Originally Posted by Steve0
No 02 SS camaros got LS2s. The LS2 wasnt even released until 2005. I think you mean that some of the 02 cars got LS6 blocks.
agreed but i thought that was a certain lucky few
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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10% of 01s and 25% of 02s came with the ls6 blocks. Remember, this was just the block, not the engine. I don't know what this crap is about 98-99s putting down 280-290 at the wheels. Maybe the automatics do, but the manuals are still good for over 300 at the wheels regularly. Maybe a poorly broken in engine might be slightly under that mark. The only real power difference between the 98-02 ls1 f-bodies came as a result of the ls6 intake manifold introduced on the c5 and the f cars in 01, and those cars can and will dyno over 310 rwhp stock. Bear in mind though, a 98-00 car with an ls6 intake on it will make more hp than and 01 or 02, due to the better cam.

To answer the poster's original question, when you asked how much power is "under the hood" of an ls1 f-body, I would say around 350 crank hp, just like the vettes.
Old Oct 24, 2005 | 12:47 PM
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Re: ls1 true horspower rating?

Originally Posted by 3rdgentug
02 SS cars got the ls2
01- 02 243 are the better heads
The LS2 debuted in the 2005 Corvette.
Some 02 SS cars MAY have gotten an LS6 block.

The 243 casting heads are the Z06 heads.
The 241 casting heads are the better heads.

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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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Re: ls1 true horspower rating?

Originally Posted by Kraest
The LS2 debuted in the 2005 Corvette.
Some 02 SS cars MAY have gotten an LS6 block.

The 243 casting heads are the Z06 heads.
The 241 casting heads are the better heads.

Mike
No F-Body ever left GM with ls6 heads in it. Some of the 01s and 02s got the block, and all 01s and 02s got the intake, and that is it.
Old Oct 24, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RussStang
No F-Body ever left GM with ls6 heads in it. Some of the 01s and 02s got the block, and all 01s and 02s got the intake, and that is it.
Yes, that is correct.

Why did you quote me?

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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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I am trying to make sense of what you meant. Are you referring to the ls2 when you mention the head castings?
Old Oct 28, 2005 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 3rdgentug
98 only car with a actually good working coolant temp gauge
98 best pcm
98-00 better cam
01- 02 less aggresive cam b/c of no egr
01-02 better intake ( ls6 )
00-02 better exhaust manifolds
02 SS cars got the ls2
01- 02 243 are the better heads
this is all the knowledge i have picked up since owning my 99z
01-02'=best pcm(98's had more aggressive spark/timing curve, but not as good of a pcm)
98'=28.6 lb/hr injectors
99-00'=26.4 lb/hr injectors
01-02'=28.8 lb/hr injectors
98-00'=bigger cam
01-02'=smaller truck cam
01-02'=LS6 intake
00-02'=better exhaust manifolds
02' did not get any LS2 parts(LS2 was not available at the time)
01-02'=241 casting heads(slightly better flowing because they are smoother, albeit same design). with porting all LS1 casting's flow equal to each other. There is no best LS1 casting for porting. The LS6 243's are a different story, as they are a different design.

All 98-02 cars dyno within a similar range. With rare exception they all dyno 300+ besides the auto's. 98's dyno similar to the later model cars.

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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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Re: ls1 true horspower rating?

I was just wondering, does a slightly less aggressive cam coupled with a (possible) ls6 block increase the lifespan of an 01 or 02 Camaro? And are there any tricks to find out which ones got the ls6 block by looking at the VIN?
Old Oct 28, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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The LS6 block is a little better, but both are great motors and will last you a long time. I wouldn't worry about finding an LS6 block if I was you. There were few f-bodies that actually got one and would be hard to find. The LS6 block isn't all that much better anyway.
Old Oct 29, 2005 | 01:21 AM
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Re: ls1 true horspower rating?

Originally Posted by Black9TA8
The LS6 block is a little better, but both are great motors and will last you a long time. I wouldn't worry about finding an LS6 block if I was you. There were few f-bodies that actually got one and would be hard to find. The LS6 block isn't all that much better anyway.
10% of 01s and 25% of 02s got the ls6 block, so they aren't as hard to find as you are suggesting.
They have a different number imprinted into the casting on them. I don't remember the exact number, but I sure that if you do a search here on it WS6isKing, I am sure it will come up.
Old Oct 29, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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Re: ls1 true horspower rating?

Originally Posted by RussStang
10% of 01s and 25% of 02s got the ls6 block, so they aren't as hard to find as you are suggesting.
They have a different number imprinted into the casting on them. I don't remember the exact number, but I sure that if you do a search here on it WS6isKing, I am sure it will come up.
12561168, and it's on the back of the block, driver's side, and a pain to try to see. They're easier to determine by the dull finish of the cast surfaces, and lack of the 'bullseye' marks in the notch on the head face just on front of the head on the passenger side. There are some comments about the reduced windage with these blocks (they have much larger breather windiws on the crank bearing webs) being good for a few hp, but the evidence is sketchy.
Old Oct 29, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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Re: ls1 true horspower rating?

Originally Posted by RussStang
10% of 01s and 25% of 02s got the ls6 block, so they aren't as hard to find as you are suggesting.
They have a different number imprinted into the casting on them. I don't remember the exact number, but I sure that if you do a search here on it WS6isKing, I am sure it will come up.
I've heard the #'s may even be a bit lower than those. These are rough estimates I believe. Either way it isn't exactly "easy" to find one. It's hard enough to find a car you like, in good shape, low miles, etc. Then trying to find one with a LS6 block lowers your chances of finding the car you're looking for by 75-90%! Depending on whether it's an 01 or 02 of course.
Old Oct 29, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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Re: ls1 true horspower rating?

Originally Posted by 00cls1camaross
agreed but i thought that was a certain lucky few

You're thinking about the LS6 block.
Old Oct 30, 2005 | 01:06 AM
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no **** i was agreeing with the people who were saying only a few got the LS6


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Old Oct 31, 2005 | 09:37 AM
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Re: ls1 true horspower rating?

What is the highest that a stock LS1 has dyno'd? A friend of mine in his stock WS6 put down 330-340 (have to check to be positive) in his 2002 model M6.

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