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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 09:39 PM
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Re: ls1 ss/ta vs c5 ???s

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One thing. I heard that f-body's had more of a power loss through the drivetrain than C5's. .
You heard wrong.
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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oops. sorry.

may I ask how this occurs?
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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oops. sorry.

may I ask how this occurs?

I wish I had a more scientific answer than "it just does", but that is the extent of my explanation. The Vette IRS is known to soak up more hp than the fbody's 10 bolt. Quite often fbodies will out dyno Vettes, because of this. In general it seems that straight axles transfer more power to the the ground than their IRS counterparts.
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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I wish I had a more scientific answer than "it just does", but that is the extent of my explanation. The Vette IRS is known to soak up more hp than the fbody's 10 bolt. Quite often fbodies will out dyno Vettes, because of this. In general it seems that straight axles transfer more power to the the ground than their IRS counterparts.
My car would be in the 480s if I had a solid axle setup
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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well, good to know!
Old Apr 13, 2006 | 06:11 PM
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I've seen a completely bone stock C5(down to the paper filter) run 12.6x. Stock tires, stock everything(M6). It ended up breaking the known record for the being the fastest completely stock C5 out there.

You don't see an fbody doing that. I also don't see Fbody's consistently running in the 12's bone stock. Sure there are a few factory freaks out there but consistenty? Nope.

It's not just a "driver's race". The vette is faster, period.
Hmmm...guess the C5's I've raced and beat when I was stock must have been trying to boost my self esteem by letting me win.
Old Apr 13, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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Re: ls1 ss/ta vs c5 ???s

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I've seen a completely bone stock C5(down to the paper filter) run 12.6x. Stock tires, stock everything(M6). It ended up breaking the known record for the being the fastest completely stock C5 out there.

You don't see an fbody doing that. I also don't see Fbody's consistently running in the 12's bone stock. Sure there are a few factory freaks out there but consistenty? Nope.

It's not just a "driver's race". The vette is faster, period.
Average drivers will be a drivers race. Not everyone is superhuman and can run a stock C5 to a 12.6. Most C5s I see at the track tend to run low 13s, right in line with a good running f-body.
Old Apr 14, 2006 | 12:42 AM
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Average drivers will be a drivers race. Not everyone is superhuman and can run a stock C5 to a 12.6. Most C5s I see at the track tend to run low 13s, right in line with a good running f-body.
Average drivers of exact equal skill and the win goes to the Vette. This is especially true on the highway, where one might pull up next to an fbody and go from a roll, completely negating any benefit the fbody might get from their advantage of an easier launch from the solid axle. . I don't see what is so hard to understand about this.
Old Apr 14, 2006 | 12:43 AM
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Hmmm...guess the C5's I've raced and beat when I was stock must have been trying to boost my self esteem by letting me win.

In all fairness, there are alot of c5s out there, and there are alot of sucky c5 drivers out there. Alot of c5 drivers aren't guys that have cut their teeth beating the sh*t out of an fbody they might have had once; they are old guys that bought the car and feel that they are untouchable.
Old Apr 14, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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Perfect!

Use one of my previous posts on here as an example...

I had a 3.8 camaro M5 for about two years before getting my SS. Using that time to learn how to handle the car, and slam the gears. Stepping into my car now wasn't too hard to adapt to.

My brother on the other hand, has only had his C5 for a year or so. with his only prior cars being automatic.

We pulled dead even the last time we raced and I know his car is a good 1/4 to 1/2 second faster than mine in the quarter mile.

or maybe I'm wrong. ehh. who cares.
Old Apr 14, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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In all fairness, there are alot of c5s out there, and there are alot of sucky c5 drivers out there. Alot of c5 drivers aren't guys that have cut their teeth beating the sh*t out of an fbody they might have had once; they are old guys that bought the car and feel that they are untouchable.
In all fairness, there are a lot of f-bodies out there and a lot of sucky drivers too. There are many f-body owners that have never owned a V8 or even a car before. It can go either way.
Old Apr 15, 2006 | 12:13 AM
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In all fairness, there are a lot of f-bodies out there and a lot of sucky drivers too. There are many f-body owners that have never owned a V8 or even a car before. It can go either way.

Yeah, it most definety can, but you weren't talking about racing other fbodies. You were talking about racing c5s, so I brought up the point that there are alot of sh*tty c5 drivers out there.

Seeing how hard it is to find a used fbody in decent shape, I would bet that there is a higher percentage of fbody owners that drive their cars alot harder than c5 owners.
Old Apr 15, 2006 | 12:51 AM
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Re: ls1 ss/ta vs c5 ???s

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Average drivers of exact equal skill and the win goes to the Vette. This is especially true on the highway, where one might pull up next to an fbody and go from a roll, completely negating any benefit the fbody might get from their advantage of an easier launch from the solid axle. . I don't see what is so hard to understand about this.
The mighty Camaro can never lose. I love my Camaro but just look at the facts people. You as a driver might beat C5's all day but it is still the faster car.Sorry to say it but C5 FTW!!!!
Old Oct 13, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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From a roll... weight isn't a HUGE issue like it is from a launch. So advantages are pretty similar now. Advantage goes to Vette for Aerodynamics but who does roll racing 100-160 with Stock LS1s? Point goes to F Bodies
Old Oct 13, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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Re: ls1 ss/ta vs c5 ???s

this thread is from april 4th... That said, this is engine tech not who would win tech, or if the original question was "What should I buy, c5 or T/A, its still not engine tech.



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