ok guys im wondering i know they pretty much have the same motor ..... what are the times like in the 1/4 for each. Also the money to parts ratio ... i was told that the vette parts are alot more money than the camaro. is that right? ... i guess what i am saying is what would be the better running car full bolt on ss/ta or full bolt on c5?
-mike

 

full bolt on c5.

I'm sure the ss with all the common bolt ons and c5 with all the common bolt ons would make similar power being that they have the same engines.

But then it comes to weight and areodynamics, the vette wins that category hands down.

 

You're leaving out the C5 having more parasitic power loss from the IRS though. All things said and done they're pretty equal on the dyno and drag strip. C5's handle better though.

BTW a Z28 or Fomy with all bolt ons will run right with the SS and C5. If they have a stripped model, they'll probably beat them.

 

I have heard of stock LS1 c5s running 12.7s. I have heard of stock fbodies in the 12s, but not as low as 12.7. Launching off the IRS is going to be harder, but I would still give the nod to a well driven c5. There is more parasitic loss through the IRS, but the weight difference between the c5 and the fbodies more than makes up for this, and a highway run is going to require more power to be made on the fbodies part to keep up with the more aerodynamic Vette. Vette has a lower Cd, as well as less frontal area. The Vette pretty much as just about every advantage over the fbody, except for maybe a few rwhp stock.

 

It would be a driver's race... plain and simple.

 

In 1998 a stock Z28, went 12.7 with a GREAT driver. That was the "slow" year too.

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Bolt-on for bolt-on, I would say a TA or SS has ZERO advantage over a Z28. Their advantage stock is slightly better induction and exhaust. After bolt-ons, they no longer have the advantage; however, the pretty ground affects and the bigger wheels make them heavier than a Z28.

Besides, at the track the WS6 cars, etc. don't run any better than the other LS1 cars.

Ben T.

 

Studytime is right on the money...

 

Uh....ok. I wasn't disagreeing with the SS cars having zero advantage over the z28 cars. Obviously you didn't read my post very well. My post was in regard to an LS1 fbody versus an LS1 c5. The c5 has the advantage.

 

That wasn't all for you. Only the first line was about you. To quote my fiance', "it's not all about you".

Ben T.

 

C5's tend to make a little less power than f-bodys because of the IRS and drivetrain loss. Other than that, they are about the same.

 

You probably shouldn't have quoted only me then. Sure makes it seem like it is all about me based on that.

 

Yep. My Vette is slow. Wanna buy it?

 

$1500 sound good?

 

I've seen a completely bone stock C5(down to the paper filter) run 12.6x. Stock tires, stock everything(M6). It ended up breaking the known record for the being the fastest completely stock C5 out there.

You don't see an fbody doing that. I also don't see Fbody's consistently running in the 12's bone stock. Sure there are a few factory freaks out there but consistenty? Nope.

It's not just a "driver's race". The vette is faster, period.

 

One thing. I heard that f-body's had more of a power loss through the drivetrain than C5's. The thing is, the vette IS a faster car and Will handle much better than an SS or WS6.

For example, My beloved brother has a 99 C5 hardtop (borla, hurst short throw, wires, halltech intake) and I've raced him a few times in my 00' SS M6(stock aside from Lid and slp dual/dual.) The verdict is that his car will pull on me. If I get the jump, it takes a little longer for him to catch up.

Although, yesterday we gave it some juice just after a toll and we pulled dead even. The only logical explanation I can conjure is that I was shifting a tad quicker. Either way, Fun cars you won't be dissapointed.

Rick M.