haha, iM nOt iN tHe gAmE y0! mAd pRiZoPs tO ur FIPK dAwG. *gang signs*

And for the record, I wasnt saying the FIPK is bad smart one. I was simply saying that people arn't getting 27 RWHP out of it like they think. Post all the dyno sheets you want.

 

Well, from what I've read on this and other archived threads, the lid still poses as a restriction. I'm going with the FIPK. Screw super sucker and ftra, I'm not risking hydro lock if I hit a mildy deep puddle in a rain storm.

 

How many times have we seen this thread. We all know the FIPK is 100s of times better and the fact of the matter this whole argument is ridiculous. The lid guys just get defensive and say it works better b/c they were cheap as$es and didnt go all out. How can you argue with the fact that an open element is superior to a lid with an opening but not entirely open. Sure everyone is gonna go ahead and say that the hot air from the engine bay gets into the FIPK, well not much more than a lid and that problem is easily solved by pulling the windhshield bottle anyway as you'll get so much more air from there at high speeds than from your engine bay. The small amount of extra hot air that the FIPK absorbs is easily made up for by the much greater amount of air it takes in. I know the lid guys are gonna flame me for this post, but facts are facts and you cant argue with them. More air is better.

 

You keep right on believing that. Your best MPH is 106 and mine is 111.80. I love beating guys like you at the track

 

Yes and your car also runs about .9 faster than mine, so unless your attributing nearly an entire second to the lid then it has something to do with other mods as well.

 

I never said anything about the ET just the MPH as that is an indicator of the horsepower.
The only power mods that I have are SSRA, Direct flow lid, K&N, OR Y-pipe, and Dynomouth. And my race weight is 3530 lbs.

Al

 

Wow.

PLEASE know what the fu*k you are talking about before you post. I know this is a lot to ask (especially with ignorant know-it-alls like yourself). Lid + FTRA is MORE expensive than the FIPK. So, you can take your more expensive argument (what a halarious one that is) and shove it up your anus.

Secondly, you can go take that argument over to LS1TECH.com, where a good percentage of the guys spend 10K on their motors, and tell them they are just "cheap, and dont want to go all the way".

I am not ignorant the the FIPK. But you my friend, are a first class moron. What will seperate the LS1 community? "The lid guys and the FIPK guys". LMAO, keep providing us with your dribble and lack of knowledge. Its quite entertaining.

And always remember! You are REALLY getting 27 RWHP from the FIPK! I swear!

 

Your converter, lower gears and shiftkit should be considered POWER mods.

 

Al ... we've been there done that ... 112.8 on a 3675 raceweight in a +1400 D/A to your 111.8 ...

And Brian ... Do you have anything other than internet bench racing to back up your statements?? ... We see no mods or ET in your sig ... what qualifies you to know anything on the subject, other than what you read at LS1 Tech ... If guy claims 27 and has the dyno sheet to back it, why not ... I got 23 rwhp, myself ...

 

Thank you. You are running traps of 12.1 @ 111 from a convertor and gears that I dont have. So you just proved your own point worthless since you attributeed the sole cause of your higher mph b/c of the lid. Convertor + gears make car faster, thus higher trap. And as for U8 Dusst I never said anything about FTRA, I said lid and filter is cheaper than an FIPK. A FTRA is pointless IMO since you get the same effect from pulling the windsheild bottle. If you cant argue these things politely without having to resort to swearing at me then I think you should take a second look at yourself and not at this message board.

 

Well I'm not an expert or anything as most of us are not, but I do agree with Black01-Z. Ive never seen anyone with the FIPK say anything bad about it but I cant say the same for lid users, Ive heard them have problems with fit and performance(not knowing if the lid helped). As for me I went to the track about a month ago with my buddy who has a 98 Z with the SLP lid, I ran once with the stock lid - 13.61 @ 102.13mph, once with his SLP lid - 13.49 @ 103.8mph and a few times with my FIPK with a best time of 13.21 @105.37mph and nothing worse than 13.30's or under 105mph, none of my 60' times were worse than 2.1. So the lid was good for me but not as good as the FIPK, also I could feel a big difference with the FIPK but nothing with the lid. And anyone that cant decide just get what YOU want and what YOU think would be best, anything is better than stock.

 

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't a FIPK unusable with ssra/ftra kits? So then if I was considering a purchase that included ssra would my options not be lid + ssra or fipk?

So if I am right about that then my question is not will the fipk out perform the lid but will the fipk out perform my lid + ssra combo. I am currently about to order ssra and a tsp lid (plan on placing order tomarrow) and my research indicates I would see a gain of 15hp from the lid and 10hp from the ram air kit once I hit 50mph.

so the bottom line would be ssra $200 and tsp lid $130 for a total of $330 and 25hp gained.

or

FIPK at $300.00 and 22-23 hp gained.

Both prices and gains are close so then it is a matter of personal taste for looks correct?

 

You're essentially right ... but a couple of points ... if you want a reusable filter add another $50, plus $10 for a recharging kit to your cost ... bringing it to $390. Plus, you should be able to find an FIPK in the $270 - $280 range ...

As far as performance, they are essentially equal. For every proof of one over the other, there's a counter proof ... and quiet frankly there is probably no real way to prove it ... The FIPK will always out perform the FTRA/SSRA on the dyno and rip and exchange track tests don't provide any differences that are not within the normal variables of one run to another at the track ...

So you're right, if the cost difference is no issue, you're left with the othe factors ... personal asthetics, vulnerabilty to hydrolock, thermal exposure, impact/intergration with other systems, long term durabilty, adaptabilty, fitment and overall consistancy in quality ...

 

does any 1 have pictures of the ssra+ tsp lid already set up in the car, if so can you pls post?
and if any 1 has the pics of the fipk set up in the car can you also pls post?
THANKS

 

Yes and we also noted that you had more mods too