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Old May 2, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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I think I need a retune.. Levels off at 3k RPM.

Ever since the recent LS6 intake and cat delete. I have noticed that the power seems to level off at about 3k rpm. -odd for an LS1. I have a LOT of low end TQ, but it seems to stop pulling as hard about 3k rpm.

When I give it 1/2 to 3/4 throttle in 4th at about 2k rpm, the speedometer climbs like crazy. after about 3k rpm, it seems to level off.

Ideas? Since my LS1 Edit, I deleted my cats, EGR, AIR and added an LS6 intake. My last retune was also at 21k miles. She now has 40,400 miles.

That LS6 intake also added a LOT of TQ, but seemed to have increased slightly when I deleted my cats.

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Old May 2, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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Well your finding all sorts of things wrong today aint ya.
Old May 2, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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Yeah... 40k and she's falling apart...

I hope not.
Old May 2, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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Make sure the TB is opening all the way and check for vacuum leaks.
Old May 2, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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^ yep... P+P'd SLP TB w/ Bump stop mod.

No vacuum leaks.. Deleted the AIR and plugged the hole for the extra vacuum line.
Old May 2, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bayer-Z28
Yeah... 40k and she's falling apart...

I hope not.
No way, thats still a new car. They dont let go that easily. I got 193K, and Ill take ya on anyday!
Old May 2, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bayer-Z28

No vacuum leaks.. Deleted the AIR and plugged the hole for the extra vacuum line.

Really trying not to hijack but I've noticed the same thing after my LS6/header/exhaust install. Where is the extra vacuum line? I may have missed it. I actually don't recall plugging anything after I deleated the AIR/EGR.
Old May 3, 2007 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Bayer-Z28
^ yep... P+P'd SLP TB w/ Bump stop mod.

No vacuum leaks.. Deleted the AIR and plugged the hole for the extra vacuum line.
Just because the TB is capable of opening all the way doesn't mean the throttle cable isn't in a bind and not opening it all the way.
Old May 3, 2007 | 08:58 AM
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2k? 3k?

The LS1 makes peak power closer to 6k. Why are you worried about low-end on an engine that doesn't even make peak torque until around 4200 rpm?

Mike
Old May 3, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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^ 2000. I'm not worried about the low end power... It's that lack of high end that confuses me.

My dyno graph shows my TQ peaks at about 4500. 320RWTQ at 2k rpm, but why does it feel like soo much more and so little at higher R's???

I'll have to do a WOT 4th gear run this weekend out in the desert. Going to try to get it re-dyno'd and re-tuned soon too.

Originally Posted by fasteddie94
Really trying not to hijack but I've noticed the same thing after my LS6/header/exhaust install. Where is the extra vacuum line? I may have missed it. I actually don't recall plugging anything after I deleated the AIR/EGR.
There is a T in the back of the LS6 intake, next to the MAP sensor. You can remove the T if you delete the AIR system. One vacuum line goes to that air system 'diverter valve' type thing.

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Old May 3, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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Change your fuel filter, clean you air filter. How old are the plugs etc etc.

I noticed it not pulling so hard up top a few months ago. I did the above and it felt like new again.

Only true way to tell if you're not pulling ok though would be to get a dyno run in somewhere.
Old May 4, 2007 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Bayer-Z28
^ 2000. I'm not worried about the low end power... It's that lack of high end that confuses me.

My dyno graph shows my TQ peaks at about 4500. 320RWTQ at 2k rpm, but why does it feel like soo much more and so little at higher R's???

I'll have to do a WOT 4th gear run this weekend out in the desert. Going to try to get it re-dyno'd and re-tuned soon too.


There is a T in the back of the LS6 intake, next to the MAP sensor. You can remove the T if you delete the AIR system. One vacuum line goes to that air system 'diverter valve' type thing.
Just checked out the dyno sheet and it looks great. Nice torque curve.


I don't see anything wrong with it. Take it to the track instead of trusting your ***-o-meter
Old May 5, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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I do need plugs. But I have to wait on new wires.. The Taylor ones were pulling out of the boot.
Old May 6, 2007 | 09:11 AM
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I know it sounds dumb, but the linear HP progression and absolute smoothness of the LSx may be tricking you. By all means, put it on the dyno again, or run it at the track, but those mods shouldn't have caused a drastic change in the powerband.
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