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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 12:45 AM
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I need my car more quiet, please help!

Hello there, I've done my search and still can't decide. I recently installed Flowtech Longtubes with non-catted 3" ypipe (everything else is stock meaning no cam). On the ipipe I have a chambered muffler (from classicchambered.com) and a electric cutout after it. Below is a picture of what the setup looks like:



With it open it sounds way too loud for my taste. Now what do you think I can replace the chambered muffler with to make it quiter? I know someone is going to say put in some cats but I'm trying to not go that route. At WOT its just WAY TOO LOUD and too me kind of sounds terrible. I'm sure its commen sense that I'm looking for something that takes out the rasp or atleast somewhat eliminates it since I will be running no cats. Please help, thanks guys
Old Nov 24, 2006 | 07:09 AM
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what did you expect with a cutout

you will never be able to quite that exhaust with a cutout.. unless you put the cutout after the muffler.. (edit: factory style muffler)

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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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Hahaha. Yeah, a cutout will do that. It's made for times that you are racing. If you don't like how loud the cutout is, all you can do is remove it and get a non-chambered muffler to replace everything. That way you can have a good balance of WOT volume and cruising more quietly.

A nice, inexpensive muffler that flows great would be the Dynomax Ultraflow. It's a non-chambered muffler that would replace your existing cutout and other muffler(s).
Old Nov 24, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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Thanks guys but the cutout is after the muffler (after the chambered muffler).
Old Nov 24, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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Thanks guys but the cutout is after the muffler (after the chambered muffler).
Chambered mufflers don't do much in the way of "muffling." You're gonna have to go back to a factory style muffler. Or you pick up a Borla catback and put the electric cutout in it. Borla actually becomes very docile when its all being pushed through the muffler, and it makes plenty of noise when you open it up and allow it to flow straight through.
Old Nov 24, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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Put a Flo-pro Twister in there. Its the same shape muffler as your chambered stick so it'll fit. I have one in the I of my Borla to kill rasp when open. Its really pretty quiet and sounds nice and smooth. Not bad at all on my daily driver, but I do have cats though.
Old Nov 24, 2006 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Greed4Speed
Put a Flo-pro Twister in there. Its the same shape muffler as your chambered stick so it'll fit. I have one in the I of my Borla to kill rasp when open. Its really pretty quiet and sounds nice and smooth. Not bad at all on my daily driver, but I do have cats though.
Thats the thing, I think its going to be loud regardless if I dont have cats.

What do you guys think how it would sound if I were to weld a catalytic converter in the i pipe. I will be taking out the chambered muffler though and just probably placing the cutout after ther cat. So when open it'll be loud but when close it'll flow through my stock slp muffler. What do you guys think? Do you know anyone thats done it?
Old Nov 24, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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Even on non-catted true dual set ups the twisters are noticably quieter than bullet or chambered stick mufflers. Stick mufflers are nothing but noisy glasspacks anyway.

A single cat set up will be costing yourself quite a bit of power.

If you want to check for clearance, Magnaflow makes a pretty thin 3" ID/OD regular sized muffler. IIRC its 3.5 or 4" thick. I've seen them used for duals on 4th gens also. IMO you start doing this you might as well over the axel through the muffler for driving around and just use the cutout for racing purposes.
Old Nov 24, 2006 | 10:17 PM
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Thanks for the information. I'm going to look into the twisters especially if they are much quieter then a bullet.

Also, may just have an exhaust shop make me a new 3" ipipe and put an electric cutout in place and just run it through my stock ss muffler or place a magnaflow muffler in place.
Old Nov 25, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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The stock SS mufler and I are 2.75".
Old Nov 25, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Greed4Speed
The stock SS mufler and I are 2.75".
Wait, so the tailpipes to the ipipe are only 2.75 and not 3" inches? If true, will a 3" moroso muffler or any 3" twister work well in the ipipe?
Old Nov 25, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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So that's what your exhaust looks like. I was trying to figure out how the hell you put a chambered pipe in there.

Anyway, look at the design of that pipe. Those "chambers" are tiny as hell and aren't doing much. If you want to keep a similar set up look into the borla xr-1s. They are a straight through race muffler that you can get pretty slim. A lot of people use them on true duals. Take a look on www.ls1sounds.com, look up true duals and listen to some of the clips they have of people using xr1s.

I had two on my old camaro with long tubes and an x pipe, no cats. The engine wasn't the hottest thing out there but it put out decent power. Those xr1s quieted the thing down pretty good, and flow nice too. Real clean sound.

A catalytic convertor(s) supposedly cuts down on rasp, but you can't randomly put a cat in your exhaust set up. You would have to get a catted y for your set up. That would place the cats in the optimum place for efficiency.
Old Nov 25, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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Thanks for the response man. I was thinking of getting a moroso bullet style muffler for the ipipe in replacement of the powerstick that I have. A member from another forum has one for sale but its a 3.5" inlet/outlet. Will weld fine in the ipipe?
Old Nov 25, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by scof0elife
Thanks for the response man. I was thinking of getting a moroso bullet style muffler for the ipipe in replacement of the powerstick that I have. A member from another forum has one for sale but its a 3.5" inlet/outlet. Will weld fine in the ipipe?
Too big a change IMO. That's 3/4 of an inch bigger. Can you imagine the welder trying to make that up? Plus, and this is just guessing on my part, I'm no physics major, wouldn't the change in diameter screw up your backpressure since it has to expand and compress?

BTW, when the hell are you going to let me hear that damn thing?
Old Nov 25, 2006 | 09:04 PM
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Too big a change IMO. That's 3/4 of an inch bigger. Can you imagine the welder trying to make that up? Plus, and this is just guessing on my part, I'm no physics major, wouldn't the change in diameter screw up your backpressure since it has to expand and compress?

BTW, when the hell are you going to let me hear that damn thing?
Hmmmm thats a good question about the back pressure. My ory is already 3" so what I was thinking was just weld it to the ypipe and my cutout is already 3" and if anything extra needs to be connected can't I just ask the exhaust shop to add a peice of 3" piping? What would you think if I did it like that man?

As for the sound clip I'm going to try and get it tomorrow. I would like people to hear longtubes with ory with a 3" all the way through chambered muffler.



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