high flow bellows
11-14-2002, 06:42 PM
#16
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Canadian West Coast
Posts: 1,711
Originally posted by GregWS6&Z28
Many Satisfied customers with the Redhawk. How did you see the stress it produced under Wide open throttle? ???????
Many Satisfied customers with the Redhawk. How did you see the stress it produced under Wide open throttle? ???????
You can simply rev the engine while in park (though this isn't something to make a habit of, as it isn't good for the engine) and you'll see the engine twist (naturally...). The engine is designed to twist, but the airlid is not. That's why that accordian bellows is in there. The Fernco fiiting WILL flex somewhat, but not very much. Some guys have run the hose on their car for years without a problem (knowledgable people too, like Raughammer, Redhawk, etc...), but others have cracked the tabs on their airlids, destroying the seal. Have a look as the aftermarket lids and you'll see how fragile they are around the two little tabs on the back... although they are great for smoothing out airflow, they are not as strong as the factory unit lid. Of Course, if you're not putting pressure on the lid, it doesn't matter if it's not very strong.
Try a search on LS1.com or LS1tech.com and you'll see more than a few complaints over the years with the Fernco mod.
11-14-2002, 07:05 PM
#17
Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Clinton, MS
Posts: 11
Originally posted by Dark Angel
Get a Fernco 3" x 3" flexible plumbing coupler, Part #P1056-33. $4.98 from Home Depot. Goes on the MAF easily and with a little stretching goes on the TB. Cheap Mod if this is what you want.
Get a Fernco 3" x 3" flexible plumbing coupler, Part #P1056-33. $4.98 from Home Depot. Goes on the MAF easily and with a little stretching goes on the TB. Cheap Mod if this is what you want.
05-31-2003, 01:48 PM
#19
Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Ca
Posts: 14
Hey guys Has anyone dynoed there car stock and with mods. I have the airlid mod, bellow, Flowmaster ehaust.. What kind of horsepower am I pushing?
looking to change the throttle body and plainning on makes ram air system for it.. thanks
steve
looking to change the throttle body and plainning on makes ram air system for it.. thanks
steve
05-31-2003, 01:54 PM
#20
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 36
I saw this bellows that Speed Inc sells. It's called the Austin Bellows. Here's a couple of pics.
www.buickwe4.com/pic/DSC00021.jpg
www.buickwe4.com/pic/DSC00023.jpg
www.buickwe4.com/pic/DSC00021.jpg
www.buickwe4.com/pic/DSC00023.jpg
05-31-2003, 02:53 PM
#21
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: No Va.
Posts: 355
They're not worth 45 bucks but they look a lot better than that stock thing. This should be sold as an appearance upgrade only!
But talk about a nice profit margin- there must be about 3 dollars worth of manufacturing costs in there.
But talk about a nice profit margin- there must be about 3 dollars worth of manufacturing costs in there.
05-31-2003, 03:27 PM
#22
Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Ca
Posts: 14
jay yu said that your car with these mods
SLP lid, Magnaflow Muffler, P&P TB.
Dyno - 330rwhp/348rwtq
So mine i have airlid mod, Flowmaster exhaust and bellow.. . How much is a P&p TB? Are they better than bbk.. SO REALLY if I changed my throttle body I would have 330 rwhp? thanks
steve
SLP lid, Magnaflow Muffler, P&P TB.
Dyno - 330rwhp/348rwtq
So mine i have airlid mod, Flowmaster exhaust and bellow.. . How much is a P&p TB? Are they better than bbk.. SO REALLY if I changed my throttle body I would have 330 rwhp? thanks
steve
05-31-2003, 03:34 PM
#23
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: San Jose, Ca
Posts: 602
Every car is diferent. There is no way you can tell if your car will make the same power as his if you have the same mods. Ive seen modded cars dyno less power than stock cars. Every car/engine is different. Also, that flowmasters exhaust you have is a big restriction. Im not trying to knock it, but I have the america thunder cat back on my car too and after getting my cut out installed it definetly woke things up....
05-31-2003, 03:43 PM
#26
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: San Jose, Ca
Posts: 602
Every car is different as in, no two cars are exactly the same. Ther are differences in the crankshaft, cam shafts, the blocks, rods, pistons, bolts. And sometimes some parts just produce more power than others. We have a stock 02' Z28 in our local car club that dyno'd 315 rwhp, and we had another stock car dyno 296. Every car is different. And yes there is a dyno in San Jose, lookup Mustang Ranch in Santa Clara, ATP turbo in Fremont, Thunder Alley in San Jose, and Speed Merchant in San Jose. I recomend either ATP Turbo, or Mustang Ranch.