H/C to a Supercharger setup?
H/C to a Supercharger setup?
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I have a heads and cam engine. The heads are PRC 799 stage 2.5 and have approximately 11:1 compression. My cam is 224/230 0.585/0.585 114. I think I may have trouble registering this cam in California.
Ruling out access to a special smog shop. If I want to guarantee passing smog I will probably need to change the cam. But I'm addicted to the performance that the cam gives me. I was thinking since S/Cs have CARB EO# I could put a smog friendly cam in and install a supercharger. Now I have power and legitimacy, right?
I would assume I would also need to reduce the compression, at least to stock LS6. Is there something I can do with the heads, like thicker gaskets (bad idea with boost, am I )? I still have the stock 241 heads and camshaft. Would it be better to take put those back on over the stage 2.5 799s?
So, can I add a supercharger with my current setup. Then what will I have to do in order to install a supercharger?
Thanks for the help.
I have a heads and cam engine. The heads are PRC 799 stage 2.5 and have approximately 11:1 compression. My cam is 224/230 0.585/0.585 114. I think I may have trouble registering this cam in California.
Ruling out access to a special smog shop. If I want to guarantee passing smog I will probably need to change the cam. But I'm addicted to the performance that the cam gives me. I was thinking since S/Cs have CARB EO# I could put a smog friendly cam in and install a supercharger. Now I have power and legitimacy, right?
I would assume I would also need to reduce the compression, at least to stock LS6. Is there something I can do with the heads, like thicker gaskets (bad idea with boost, am I )? I still have the stock 241 heads and camshaft. Would it be better to take put those back on over the stage 2.5 799s?
So, can I add a supercharger with my current setup. Then what will I have to do in order to install a supercharger?
Thanks for the help.
Re: H/C to a Supercharger setup?
I thought about that when I had the cam installed. But I was afraid of oil leakage. I was told by a firend with an 800 rwhp C5 Z06 that it could be a problem. With his background I thought i should listen.
Re: H/C to a Supercharger setup?
The higher compression will actually help clean up the emissions on your heads/cam setup.
Sell the heads/cam setup and:
LQ9 heads (get you around 9.5-9.6:1 easily), baby cam, and boost boost boost. Honestly, that's a relatively cheap way (price of the supercharger is the biggest expense by FAR) to make big big power. I made 514rwhp through an AUTO on a similar setup and ran 11.teens @ 125+
I don't know.... making big power with smog restrictions isn't easy.
Mike
Sell the heads/cam setup and:
LQ9 heads (get you around 9.5-9.6:1 easily), baby cam, and boost boost boost. Honestly, that's a relatively cheap way (price of the supercharger is the biggest expense by FAR) to make big big power. I made 514rwhp through an AUTO on a similar setup and ran 11.teens @ 125+
I don't know.... making big power with smog restrictions isn't easy.
Mike
Re: H/C to a Supercharger setup?
The higher compression will actually help clean up the emissions on your heads/cam setup.
Sell the heads/cam setup and:
LQ9 heads (get you around 9.5-9.6:1 easily), baby cam, and boost boost boost. Honestly, that's a relatively cheap way (price of the supercharger is the biggest expense by FAR) to make big big power. I made 514rwhp through an AUTO on a similar setup and ran 11.teens @ 125+
I don't know.... making big power with smog restrictions isn't easy.
Mike
Sell the heads/cam setup and:
LQ9 heads (get you around 9.5-9.6:1 easily), baby cam, and boost boost boost. Honestly, that's a relatively cheap way (price of the supercharger is the biggest expense by FAR) to make big big power. I made 514rwhp through an AUTO on a similar setup and ran 11.teens @ 125+
I don't know.... making big power with smog restrictions isn't easy.
Mike
Your plan sounds good. The problem is the expense. It's basically another H/C and a supercharger. I've got the 241 heads, and the OEM cam? But for a whole new H/C and supercharger setup and then I'm going to get killed on the labor. I might have to look at the LS7 option in the C6 Z06.
Re: H/C to a Supercharger setup?
yes, the charger is pricey, but stock truck heads are cheap; and you could probably run a take out ls6 cam and do fine, emmisions wise.
So sell your old stuff for more than the Lq9's/ls6 cam, and recoup some money. as Kreast said. I bet you could get close to 800-1000 for the old heads/cam depending on spring wear and condition. Maybe more? Since they are stg 2.5's.
Lq9's and a take out ls6 cam, might run what? 400ish?
So sell your old stuff for more than the Lq9's/ls6 cam, and recoup some money. as Kreast said. I bet you could get close to 800-1000 for the old heads/cam depending on spring wear and condition. Maybe more? Since they are stg 2.5's.
Lq9's and a take out ls6 cam, might run what? 400ish?
Re: H/C to a Supercharger setup?
Your plan sounds good. The problem is the expense. It's basically another H/C and a supercharger. I've got the 241 heads, and the OEM cam? But for a whole new H/C and supercharger setup and then I'm going to get killed on the labor. I might have to look at the LS7 option in the C6 Z06.
LQ9 heads are around $300 used and you can get an LS6 cam for dirt cheap as well... the only real expense is the supercharger. That will get your compression down to around 9.6:1 or maybe a little higher depending on what head gaskets you use.
Re: H/C to a Supercharger setup?
People have been passing CARB emissions with 224/224 114 cams for years. Just slap that in and get a retune. It'll be basicly the same performance you're getting out of a 224/230 grind but with less overlap. Honestly, I'd get a 22x grind done on some of the newer lobe profiles like EPS vs. using an old off the shelf grind.
Last edited by Greed4Speed; Jan 20, 2011 at 03:41 PM.
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