Cam Suggestions/Help
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The G2 has a more agressive profile so you will use springs up quicker. How often depends on how you drive it and the springs you use.
I hope you have a line on a used one. The $1295 for the kit on LG's website is outrageous. TSP has kits from $599. Their 224R or 225 have similar specs. You should also check out Futral. Their cams are cam motion grinds and make good power. The F4 is closest to the G2.
For LSA, a tighter lobe will start you into your paower sooner, but you'll stay in it for a shorter time. The wider LSA will start a couple hunder RPM later but you'll hold it longer. Talk to whoever's cam you decide to run and they'll help you decide.
Yes, clean is emissions. I don't have to worry about that here...yet. No tailpipe checks, but they do still have the roadside monitoring stations.
I hope you have a line on a used one. The $1295 for the kit on LG's website is outrageous. TSP has kits from $599. Their 224R or 225 have similar specs. You should also check out Futral. Their cams are cam motion grinds and make good power. The F4 is closest to the G2.
For LSA, a tighter lobe will start you into your paower sooner, but you'll stay in it for a shorter time. The wider LSA will start a couple hunder RPM later but you'll hold it longer. Talk to whoever's cam you decide to run and they'll help you decide.
Yes, clean is emissions. I don't have to worry about that here...yet. No tailpipe checks, but they do still have the roadside monitoring stations.
Last edited by Greed4Speed; Nov 28, 2005 at 08:58 PM.
Re: Cam Suggestions/Help
I wasen't going to go with the G2 G2 kit... too much money. I was gonna go with these parts... what do you think?
G2 G2 Custom Cam (224/224 580/580 114)
Comp Cams Hi-Tech Chrome Moly Pushrods 5/16 7.400
Comp Cams LS1 Titanium Retainers For 26915 & 26918 SPRINGS
Though if I went with the G2 G2 kit I could get the kit and have it installed for $1600...
Would you say the 114 would give me a better power curve than the 112?
G2 G2 Custom Cam (224/224 580/580 114)
Comp Cams Hi-Tech Chrome Moly Pushrods 5/16 7.400
Comp Cams LS1 Titanium Retainers For 26915 & 26918 SPRINGS
Though if I went with the G2 G2 kit I could get the kit and have it installed for $1600...
Would you say the 114 would give me a better power curve than the 112?
Re: Cam Suggestions/Help
Originally Posted by teke184
the lobe seperation will affect the idle characteristics of the cam... also the lower lobe separation affects where the power is in the powerband. i think lower creates better mid range, higher brings the power in the upper rpms.
one of the tech lines from the sponsors could confirm that. i say call up TR and see what they suggest for your goals.
one of the tech lines from the sponsors could confirm that. i say call up TR and see what they suggest for your goals.
My opinion is less duration and tigher lobes is where it's at for street usage.
Ben T.
Re: Cam Suggestions/Help
No, just stretch it out a little, but you'll hit it later. Just depends on what you want. Like I said, talk to whoever you get your cam about that. I know futral does theirs ground advanced. That makes a difference too.
By my calculations thats over $800 and you still need some springs.
I'd have to agree with Ben. There are guys running some custom ground 108 & 110 LSA with short duration cams. Totally streetable, great curve, power like a much larger cam all in by 6k rpm, and they're clean!!! If you go this route it requires the research I mentioned before. That or you could just clone someone's specs. If you do go custom, definately go cam motion.
For more info on this:http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread...ight=tight+lsa
The Aussies have been running short duration, tight LSA cams for a while.
By my calculations thats over $800 and you still need some springs.
I'd have to agree with Ben. There are guys running some custom ground 108 & 110 LSA with short duration cams. Totally streetable, great curve, power like a much larger cam all in by 6k rpm, and they're clean!!! If you go this route it requires the research I mentioned before. That or you could just clone someone's specs. If you do go custom, definately go cam motion.
For more info on this:http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread...ight=tight+lsa
The Aussies have been running short duration, tight LSA cams for a while.
Last edited by Greed4Speed; Nov 28, 2005 at 09:46 PM.
Re: Cam Suggestions/Help
Originally Posted by Greed4Speed
definately go cam motion.
Last I heard, the comp lobes had greater .100" duration for any spec at .050" than Cam Motion did. Meaning their lobes should make more power for any given duration at .050" lift. They also spec'd a turbo car for a friend and got his suggested grind way off.
Ben T.
Re: Cam Suggestions/Help
Originally Posted by Greed4Speed
By my calculations thats over $800 and you still need some springs.
What do you mean by cam motion?
Re: Cam Suggestions/Help
Hmm, most folks seem to be talking about the cam. Are you certain you will have to pass emissions. Most states have 5 years of new car exemption. So you may have to pass emissions but not til 2010. So you can run what you want until then.
Now states do vary so go online and check your state laws.
Perry
Now states do vary so go online and check your state laws.
Perry
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Originally Posted by pkincy
Hmm, most folks seem to be talking about the cam. Are you certain you will have to pass emissions. Most states have 5 years of new car exemption. So you may have to pass emissions but not til 2010. So you can run what you want until then.
Now states do vary so go online and check your state laws.
Perry
Now states do vary so go online and check your state laws.
Perry
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That is very state dependent.
In Republik of Kalifornia OBDII cars have a sniff test, but cars newer that 5 years old have no test.
In Nevada (LV and Reno) OBDII cars have a sniff test, incl new cars.
In Az OBDII cars have a ALDL test and need to set no codes and have all the monitors completing (well all but one). But again new cars less than 5 yrs old are exempt from testing.
Each state is different.
Perry
BTW, my LS2 402 passed in AZ easily on the ALDL test. And that was with a cam much larger than being discussed here.
In Republik of Kalifornia OBDII cars have a sniff test, but cars newer that 5 years old have no test.
In Nevada (LV and Reno) OBDII cars have a sniff test, incl new cars.
In Az OBDII cars have a ALDL test and need to set no codes and have all the monitors completing (well all but one). But again new cars less than 5 yrs old are exempt from testing.
Each state is different.
Perry
BTW, my LS2 402 passed in AZ easily on the ALDL test. And that was with a cam much larger than being discussed here.
Re: Cam Suggestions/Help
Originally Posted by pkincy
That is very state dependent.
In Republik of Kalifornia OBDII cars have a sniff test, but cars newer that 5 years old have no test.
In Nevada (LV and Reno) OBDII cars have a sniff test, incl new cars.
In Az OBDII cars have a ALDL test and need to set no codes and have all the monitors completing (well all but one). But again new cars less than 5 yrs old are exempt from testing.
Each state is different.
Perry
BTW, my LS2 402 passed in AZ easily on the ALDL test. And that was with a cam much larger than being discussed here.
In Republik of Kalifornia OBDII cars have a sniff test, but cars newer that 5 years old have no test.
In Nevada (LV and Reno) OBDII cars have a sniff test, incl new cars.
In Az OBDII cars have a ALDL test and need to set no codes and have all the monitors completing (well all but one). But again new cars less than 5 yrs old are exempt from testing.
Each state is different.
Perry
BTW, my LS2 402 passed in AZ easily on the ALDL test. And that was with a cam much larger than being discussed here.
As far as it goes it seems I will have to get a bigger cam. As Todd was saying the LS2 has a pretty decent cam in it already. Going to a TR224 would only gain me around 15RWHP. Looks like I'll just have to stop by tomorrow to talk to him and see what he suggests to reach my goals.
Re: Cam Suggestions/Help
Originally Posted by Greed4Speed
IF you're going bigger....f13
Re: Cam Suggestions/Help
Originally Posted by Greed4Speed
I would buy no cam with out knowing specs.

We are also going with some other stuff. As said the SW LT's/cats, custom Borla cat back, K&N CAI, dyno tune BMR swaybars, B&M tranny cooler and a Yank SS 3600 converter.
I'll also be going with some KDW-2's all around. Though if I can get some Nittor DR's on the back I will get those on the rear. If not I'll have to find a set of 17" stock GTO rims and put some DR's on them.
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