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Old Aug 16, 2008 | 07:27 PM
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13.5 at the track new best

I know its not that fast but the car is stock and I just got it. I hit 13.8 first time at the track with it and was dissappointed then 13.7 the second time at the track. Still wasnt happy so did all the basic maintnence and free mods and the third time out i hit 13.545 first pass and 13.501 on my last pass. I am lot more happier with this result considering the car has 125,000 miles and still has the factory plugs and wires. The car is a auto and did it on the street tires.

I want to get it in the 12s real bad got a set of long tubes waiting for me to install them.
Old Aug 17, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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Thats not to bad considering my Turbo Regal went 15.01 with some mods.I was new to racing at the time though and did no burn out and no launch.It was not tuned either.These days the car feels alot faster and have not gone back to the track since.Im one of those guys who doesn't like to use Race gas because its not the true performance of the car.Now if they sold 110 octane at gas station's that would be different.
Old Aug 17, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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Thats not to bad considering my Turbo Regal went 15.01 with some mods.I was new to racing at the time though and did no burn out and no launch.It was not tuned either.These days the car feels alot faster and have not gone back to the track since.Im one of those guys who doesn't like to use Race gas because its not the true performance of the car.Now if they sold 110 octane at gas station's that would be different.
.... Does every person's post have to comeback to you talking about one of your cars?


billymz28 - I asked in the other thread as well, but what was your 60' on those street tires? You're getting better man, that's awesome. Keep up to good work
Old Aug 17, 2008 | 03:13 PM
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my 60 on my best street tire run was 2.026. My best 60 on the street tires was 2.021. I think my mickey thompsons were just to much tire for my stock auto. The tires were off my modded lt1 car in my sig just kept them when i sold the car knowing another fbody would be in my future. Looking at my previous time slips my best with the mickeys were 2.061. The mickeys are 325\50\15 by 8.5 so they are pretty beefy.
Old Aug 17, 2008 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by WheelmanZ28
.... Does every person's post have to comeback to you talking about one of your cars?


billymz28 - I asked in the other thread as well, but what was your 60' on those street tires? You're getting better man, that's awesome. Keep up to good work
This board need's some more life and more posts.No I don't have an LS1 but you would think there would be more posts if the LS1's are as popular as some think.
Old Aug 17, 2008 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by billymz28
my 60 on my best street tire run was 2.026. My best 60 on the street tires was 2.021. I think my mickey thompsons were just to much tire for my stock auto. The tires were off my modded lt1 car in my sig just kept them when i sold the car knowing another fbody would be in my future. Looking at my previous time slips my best with the mickeys were 2.061. The mickeys are 325\50\15 by 8.5 so they are pretty beefy.
A time of 2.0x in the 60' is actually really respectable for a street tire. I'm surprised you're not getting more out of the Mickeys. They shouldn't be too much tire on a stock setup. Perhaps you weren't launching hard enough? What is you're usual launch procedure? With an automatic, the most ground you're going to be able to make up is gonna be the launch. That is why I focus so much on it.


This board need's some more life and more posts.No I don't have an LS1 but you would think there would be more posts if the LS1's are as popular as some think.
As usual another pointless post and another instigating comment.

1. This is not an LS1-dedicated forum. Its primary focus is the new 2010 Camaro, however it also supports forums for many GM applications (cars, motors, etc.). If you're looking for a site with primary focus on the LS1 application, you are in the wrong place.

2. This is not a popularity contest. People on this site have their own interests and focus. I know you're hell-bent on making sure everyone on this site knows you have a "402 big block", but this is a tech forum.
Old Aug 17, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by OLD 69
This board need's some more life and more posts.No I don't have an LS1 but you would think there would be more posts if the LS1's are as popular as some think.
If this board needs anything, it is less threadcrapping.
Old Aug 17, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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pretty much launch procedure is foot brake give gas until it almost rolls. Like i said those mickeys i got are pretty beefy. and it is just a stock auto car for now. And are track is one of the best tracks around and it is super sticky.
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pretty much launch procedure is foot brake give gas until it almost rolls. Like i said those mickeys i got are pretty beefy. and it is just a stock auto car for now. And are track is one of the best tracks around and it is super sticky.
I see. On a stock torque converter, you can probably rev up to about 2500 RPM then drop the break. If you spin a little, ease into the throttle instead of just dropping to WOT.

With a stock rear-end, the sticky mickeys might be a bit much for a really hard launch. But if you're going to push the limits, adding that new torque converter would be beneficial here; as you can really rev up more RPMs at launch at take advantage of a stickier tire with a harder launch.

Sounds like you're doing everything right. As I said, a 2.0x 60' is very respectable. Maybe add some sub-frame connectors, some lower control arms, and a torque arm and you could be into the 1.9x times, which would help lower your ET as well.
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Originally Posted by WheelmanZ28
A time of 2.0x in the 60' is actually really respectable for a street tire. I'm surprised you're not getting more out of the Mickeys. They shouldn't be too much tire on a stock setup. Perhaps you weren't launching hard enough? What is you're usual launch procedure? With an automatic, the most ground you're going to be able to make up is gonna be the launch. That is why I focus so much on it.




As usual another pointless post and another instigating comment.

1. This is not an LS1-dedicated forum. Its primary focus is the new 2010 Camaro, however it also supports forums for many GM applications (cars, motors, etc.). If you're looking for a site with primary focus on the LS1 application, you are in the wrong place.

2. This is not a popularity contest. People on this site have their own interests and focus. I know you're hell-bent on making sure everyone on this site knows you have a "402 big block", but this is a tech forum.
I was trying to get a comparison between the 2 cars as far as power goes.Maybe I posted in the wrong forum but you should ignore them if you don't like them.
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by OLD 69
This board need's some more life and more posts.No I don't have an LS1 but you would think there would be more posts if the LS1's are as popular as some think.
The LS1 is very popular. The fact that you don't own one and post here is testament to that fact. This board always has and always will be primarily an LT1 oriented site. However, lack of activity on the LSx board does not mean there aren't any knowledgable people here or good information - there is a wealth of each.

billymz28 - Did you just say you've still got the stock spark plugs and wires on that car!? I thought you said you did some basic maintenance... that should include checking and in your case, replacing worn ignition components.

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Old Aug 18, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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i did everything except that im going to do them when i do the headers so i will only have to do it once. Yes a torque converter is in my near future
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I see. On a stock torque converter, you can probably rev up to about 2500 RPM then drop the break. If you spin a little, ease into the throttle instead of just dropping to WOT.

With a stock rear-end, the sticky mickeys might be a bit much for a really hard launch. But if you're going to push the limits, adding that new torque converter would be beneficial here; as you can really rev up more RPMs at launch at take advantage of a stickier tire with a harder launch.

Sounds like you're doing everything right. As I said, a 2.0x 60' is very respectable. Maybe add some sub-frame connectors, some lower control arms, and a torque arm and you could be into the 1.9x times, which would help lower your ET as well.
You should not give advise on a subject that you know little to nothing about.
A stock LS1 converter will rip the tires loose from the brakes and the pavement at 1700-1800 rpm. Not anywhere near to 2500 rpm.
And with an automatic trans the stock rear will run well into the mid to low 11s on sticky tires without even a hiccup. And yes I know this from personal experience.

But you are dead on about a good aftermarket TC. With lid, free mods, Loudmouth, and sticky tires I went a best of 12.96. Added a Yank ST3500 and went a best of 12.15.
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Originally Posted by AL SS590 M6
You should not give advise on a subject that you know little to nothing about.
A stock LS1 converter will rip the tires loose from the brakes and the pavement at 1700-1800 rpm. Not anywhere near to 2500 rpm.
And with an automatic trans the stock rear will run well into the mid to low 11s on sticky tires without even a hiccup. And yes I know this from personal experience.

But you are dead on about a good aftermarket TC. With lid, free mods, Loudmouth, and sticky tires I went a best of 12.96. Added a Yank ST3500 and went a best of 12.15.
I had an automatic LT1 that didn't seem to have a problem at launching over 2000 RPM on a stock converter/trans. Before I got my vigilante 3200 in that car I was usually in the 2200 RPM range.

If he is cutting the same 60' with MTs and street tires, I don't think he is launching hard enough on the MTs, which is what I attesting to.

I have been racing for a long time, and I don't appreciate being told I know nothing about it. I'm not sure why every time I post you have to disagree with me. A lot of things are a matter of opinion around here, sorry if we don't agree.
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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
The LS1 is very popular. The fact that you don't own one and post here is testament to that fact. This board always has and always will be primarily an LT1 oriented site. However, lack of activity on the LSx board does not mean there aren't any knowledgable people here or good information - there is a wealth of each.

billymz28 - Did you just say you've still got the stock spark plugs and wires on that car!? I thought you said you did some basic maintenance... that should include checking and in your case, replacing worn ignition components.
Thats why Im here to find out about the LS1.I like Auto's for the drags but I would want the M6 for the street when I get my LS1.Im not right all the time like some guy's claim to be.

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