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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 11:32 PM
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00 SS

Does the 00 ss come with the ls6 intake..?
whats the 1/4 mile time for a stock 00 SS a4....?
Old Oct 9, 2003 | 11:42 PM
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No I am pretty sure 01 is when LS1s got the LS6 intake manifold. It will run like your Z28 except handle better.
Old Oct 10, 2003 | 03:32 AM
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Thanks for the reply........reason for the Question is i wrecked my Z28, now im looking for an SS and just wondering what is the best year for the ss.
Old Oct 10, 2003 | 04:02 AM
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Originally posted by LetMeBurnU
Thanks for the reply........reason for the Question is i wrecked my Z28, now im looking for an SS and just wondering what is the best year for the ss.
There isn't a bad year.
If you get a 98-99 then you need headers and LS6 intake
If you get a 00 then just the intake. Then they are all =====

The dollars saved buying an older model would easily cover these mods.
Old Oct 10, 2003 | 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by AL SS590 M6
There isn't a bad year.
If you get a 98-99 then you need headers and LS6 intake
If you get a 00 then just the intake. Then they are all =====

The dollars saved buying an older model would easily cover these mods.


There is no way that a 98-99 SS needs headers and a intake to compete with a 01-02 SS. It is a 5hp difference at most. Stock for stock they both run simular 1/4 mile times a good drive can close the gap.
Old Oct 10, 2003 | 10:47 AM
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The earlier models had more agressive cam designs. The 00 having the most agressive IIRC. In 01 when they went to the LS6 intake they also went to the same cam that they run in GM trucks. I've ran a 02 SS and TA and beat them both. Just get one that you get a good deal on and you like, once you start modding its all a new game.

I got my 00 SS w/ 28K miles for about $5k less than a stock 02 would run. Thats a lot of mods I could do to make up the price. The LS6 intake isn't worth that much.

From what I've read the LS6 intake doesn't make much difference at all until you go with a larger cam anyway.
Old Oct 10, 2003 | 11:54 AM
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There is no way that a 98-99 SS needs headers and a intake to compete with a 01-02 SS. It is a 5hp difference at most. Stock for stock they both run simular 1/4 mile times a good drive can close the gap.
I don't think he was implying that you absolutely need headers and the LS6 intake to run with an 01-02 LS1, just that those are the two weak points of the 98-99 models that GM improved upon in the later models. All LS1s regardless of the year will run pretty close times, it's all up to the driver and sometimes whether you ended up with a factory freak or a lemon.
Old Oct 10, 2003 | 12:00 PM
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Question Lost on the headers part.

Originally posted by AL SS590 M6
There isn't a bad year.
If you get a 98-99 then you need headers and LS6 intake
If you get a 00 then just the intake. Then they are all =====

The dollars saved buying an older model would easily cover these mods.
'98 & '99's come w/ the header style exhaust manifolds anyway.

Wouldn't these be better than the cast iron logs on the '01 & '02's ?


'98's get the bigger injectors, FWIW. '98's also have a functioning temp gauge - the later models are more or less "dummies" until the temp goes past ~220 or so.

'01 & '02 have no EGR - underhood looks a lot cleaner.

As far as the LS6 manifold, This Guy got 24RWHP by changing to it - dunno what mods he had prior.


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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by Greed4Speed
I got my 00 SS w/ 28K miles for about $5k less than a stock 02 would run. Thats a lot of mods I could do to make up the price. The LS6 intake isn't worth that much.
Ever think that someone would chose to pay the extra money so they can have a 2 year newer car with extremely low miles, and not just because of an intake? I'm not trying to be rude but it is common sense that a newer car will cost more money, regardless of improvements over the previous models or not.

Again, the only real difference between any LS1 is the driver behind the wheel. A 5-10hp difference really doesn't mean a whole lot. And once modding starts then it's all thrown out the window anyways.
Old Oct 10, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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Maybe I am totally stupid but what is IIRC
Old Oct 10, 2003 | 08:55 PM
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The 01-02 ls1s clearly have a slight edge in performance over the 98-00. After having driven at the track several times the 98 z, 00z, and 02z, the 02z is the only one that went 13.2 @106. All the others ran 13.4 @ 105 at best. These cars were all identical, stock and had 2.0 60ft times..... so I say the 01-02 have a .1 advantage on the older ones. Just my results after many trips to the track.
Old Oct 10, 2003 | 11:04 PM
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IMO 01-02 have the best advantage when it comes to moding. They have no EGR, that itself isnt worth alot of horsepower. But to clean up the motor they put a smaller cam in. So 98-00 and 01-02 are very similar in stock performance, but since 01-02 have a smaller cam to begin with they will see better performance gains when it comes to a cam swap. Also that can be combined with the fact that they come with the ls6 intake manifold so when they do a cam swap the intake manifold is better able to supply the motor with air.
Old Oct 11, 2003 | 12:28 AM
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Re: Lost on the headers part.

Originally posted by NEWBIE T/A
'98 & '99's come w/ the header style exhaust manifolds anyway.

Wouldn't these be better than the cast iron logs on the '01 & '02's ?
Britt
Nope. It's a proven fact that the 00 and up factory manifolds flow better than the 98-98s




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