will racing fuel improve et's
#3
No, people claiming godly power gains by adding race fuel to there otherwise stock engines, are full of it. Just stick with the 93 or 91 whichever. However, after running leaded fuel for a while it will also kill your o2 sensors.
#4
The octane level of your fuel for maximum power is as LOW as you can go without getting knock.
Low octane fuel will burn faster.
If you were to run 87 octane and not see any knock or have any problems with knock retard, you will be faster than if you were having to run 91.
Most of the time when people need much higher octane it's because of boost and detonation.
My Supercharged Grand Prix for instance ran no faster with 105 octane than it did with 91. But I also had only false knock.
Also as far as what was said with the regards to the cat. If the fuel is unleaded it won't harm your cats at all. If it is leaded, then it will foul out O2s and such.
Long story short, it's a waste of money most likely.
Low octane fuel will burn faster.
If you were to run 87 octane and not see any knock or have any problems with knock retard, you will be faster than if you were having to run 91.
Most of the time when people need much higher octane it's because of boost and detonation.
My Supercharged Grand Prix for instance ran no faster with 105 octane than it did with 91. But I also had only false knock.
Also as far as what was said with the regards to the cat. If the fuel is unleaded it won't harm your cats at all. If it is leaded, then it will foul out O2s and such.
Long story short, it's a waste of money most likely.
#5
Burn speed does not correlate to octane rating. Nor does octane rating correlate to energy content. From the Gasoline FAQ:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/autos/gasoline-faq/part1/
6.3 What fuel property does the Octane Rating measure?
The fuel property the octane ratings measure is the ability of the unburnt
end gases to spontaneously ignite under the specified test conditions.
Within the chemical structure of the fuel is the ability to withstand
pre-flame conditions without decomposing into species that will autoignite
before the flame-front arrives. Different reaction mechanisms, occurring at
various stages of the pre-flame compression stroke, are responsible for the
undesirable, easily-autoignitable, end gases.
[snip]
The antiknock ability is related to the "autoignition temperature" of the
hydrocarbons. Antiknock ability is _not_ substantially related to:-
1. The energy content of fuel, this should be obvious, as oxygenates have
lower energy contents, but high octanes.
2. The flame speed of the conventionally ignited mixture, this should be
evident from the similarities of the two reference hydrocarbons.
Although flame speed does play a minor part, there are many other factors
that are far more important. ( such as compression ratio, stoichiometry,
combustion chamber shape, chemical structure of the fuel, presence of
antiknock additives, number and position of spark plugs, turbulence etc.)
Flame speed does not correlate with octane.
The fuel property the octane ratings measure is the ability of the unburnt
end gases to spontaneously ignite under the specified test conditions.
Within the chemical structure of the fuel is the ability to withstand
pre-flame conditions without decomposing into species that will autoignite
before the flame-front arrives. Different reaction mechanisms, occurring at
various stages of the pre-flame compression stroke, are responsible for the
undesirable, easily-autoignitable, end gases.
[snip]
The antiknock ability is related to the "autoignition temperature" of the
hydrocarbons. Antiknock ability is _not_ substantially related to:-
1. The energy content of fuel, this should be obvious, as oxygenates have
lower energy contents, but high octanes.
2. The flame speed of the conventionally ignited mixture, this should be
evident from the similarities of the two reference hydrocarbons.
Although flame speed does play a minor part, there are many other factors
that are far more important. ( such as compression ratio, stoichiometry,
combustion chamber shape, chemical structure of the fuel, presence of
antiknock additives, number and position of spark plugs, turbulence etc.)
Flame speed does not correlate with octane.
#6
Using a fuel with too much octane can actually slow you down.
Octane is the fuel's resistance to detonation. Under high compression, a low octane fuel can self detonate before the plug fires. Using a higher octane fuel prevents or reduces that. Power gains from using high octane fuel usually means it had detonation problems with lower octane.
Last edited by Stephen 87 IROC; 05-13-2008 at 10:04 PM.
#7
That's about as close to the perfect answer as you can get.
Using a fuel with too much octane can actually slow you down.
Octane is the fuel's resistance to detonation. Under high compression, a low octane fuel can self detonate before the plug fires. Using a higher octane fuel prevents or reduces that. Power gains from using high octane fuel usually means it had detonation problems with lower octane.
Using a fuel with too much octane can actually slow you down.
Octane is the fuel's resistance to detonation. Under high compression, a low octane fuel can self detonate before the plug fires. Using a higher octane fuel prevents or reduces that. Power gains from using high octane fuel usually means it had detonation problems with lower octane.
What is your basis for stating that "too much octane can actually slow you down"? One possible phenomenon is the presence in some high octane fuel of hydrcarbons with low "specific energy"... less BTU's per unit volume. Since the injector, or to some extent the carb is a volumetric delivery system, low specific energy fuels can reduce HP output. But not all high octane fuels have low specific energy (the reason for including item 1. in the quote above). Some high octane fuels are specifically blended to maintain or increase specific energy, particularly those used for nitrous and forced induction applications. It becomes a matter of selecting the correct fuel, and tuning the delivery system to introduce the same number of BTU's.
#8
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