Why is it that...
Why is it that...
sometimes I have to press the gas pedal harder & for longer with higher rpm to reach from 0-60 as quick as other times...when it acclerates faster without flooring the gas pedal, and much less hesitation and effort by the engine (lesser rpm) 
Is it because the engine (or a computer) gets used to the regular city driving and records my tame driving habits, and then refuses to respond on rare occasions when I want the engine to perform? (
just asking)

Is it because the engine (or a computer) gets used to the regular city driving and records my tame driving habits, and then refuses to respond on rare occasions when I want the engine to perform? (
just asking)
Last edited by bmotwani; Sep 26, 2007 at 09:12 AM.
If you have an automatic transmission it might be because you're sitting on a "flat spot", for lack of a better term, when you hammer on the accelerator.
I know from experience there are RPM ranges in my car where the acceleration is dead, due to a combination of transmission and rear end gearing.
I know from experience there are RPM ranges in my car where the acceleration is dead, due to a combination of transmission and rear end gearing.
If you have an automatic transmission it might be because you're sitting on a "flat spot", for lack of a better term, when you hammer on the accelerator.
I know from experience there are RPM ranges in my car where the acceleration is dead, due to a combination of transmission and rear end gearing.
I know from experience there are RPM ranges in my car where the acceleration is dead, due to a combination of transmission and rear end gearing.

One thing I may have noticed is that if I've tried to race from 0-60 a couple of times one morning, and then reach a traffic signal, then when the lights turn green, it starts taking off to a really quick 0 to 60. It makes me wonder if the engine attunes to my style of driving that morning(??)
Basically it performs well after a couple of tries, and not the first instance when I want good acceleration.
Last edited by bmotwani; Sep 26, 2007 at 10:53 AM.
sometimes I have to press the gas pedal harder & for longer with higher rpm to reach from 0-60 as quick as other times...when it acclerates faster without flooring the gas pedal, and much less hesitation and effort by the engine (lesser rpm) 
Is it because the engine (or a computer) gets used to the regular city driving and records my tame driving habits, and then refuses to respond on rare occasions when I want the engine to perform? (
just asking)

Is it because the engine (or a computer) gets used to the regular city driving and records my tame driving habits, and then refuses to respond on rare occasions when I want the engine to perform? (
just asking)When you go WOT, the PCM should enter power enrichment (PE) mode. At that time, coolant temp can have an impact on how the engine performs. The PCM will set the target A/F ratio based on the coolant temp reading. High inlet air temps also seem to eliminate some timing that the PCM adds in excess of the lookup values in the spark tables.
Other problems with the engine could affect the response to the throttle... erratic TPS voltage, a leaking bellows between the MAF and the throttle body, sloppy engine and PCM grounds, etc. With an A4 and the LS1, there may also be issues with torque management.. I don't know the LS1 PCM's as well.
If you really think there is a difference, try doing some 0-60MPH runs with a stop watch, and find out if its real or imagined.
Last edited by Injuneer; Sep 26, 2007 at 06:14 PM.
It's in your head.
Scenario 1: When you say you press the pedal harder and RPMs are higher to get to 60mph, sounds like you're probably in 2nd gear. The more throttle you apply, the higher RPM it will take to shift. So the engine "working harder" is b/c you're probably still in 2nd and it's howling.
Scenario 2: When you press less and seem to get to 60mph with little strain, I bet you've shifted already into 4th, and the RPMs are low to reach 60mph.
Now, which is faster?? Well Scenario 1 should be faster, but only way to know is to measure your times.
Scenario 1: When you say you press the pedal harder and RPMs are higher to get to 60mph, sounds like you're probably in 2nd gear. The more throttle you apply, the higher RPM it will take to shift. So the engine "working harder" is b/c you're probably still in 2nd and it's howling.
Scenario 2: When you press less and seem to get to 60mph with little strain, I bet you've shifted already into 4th, and the RPMs are low to reach 60mph.
Now, which is faster?? Well Scenario 1 should be faster, but only way to know is to measure your times.
@ injuneer, man when I typed that I couldnt get it into words that made sense at the time, (you know those days when you have a case of "the dumb") so thats what I typed. Although my best explanation still wouldnt have been as clear as yours.Injuneer saves the day once again!
These cars get moody.. -Seriously.. If I've been on the HW she just wants to MOVE afterwords.. But if I've been babying it, she doesn't want to move at all..
Sounds crazy, but it's true..
But on a mechanical note.. You have to take into account for ambient air temperature and humidity, fuel level.. etc etc.
Sounds crazy, but it's true..
But on a mechanical note.. You have to take into account for ambient air temperature and humidity, fuel level.. etc etc.
Oh I really think that there's some computer hanky panky going on with the stock LS1 PCM programming as far as this subject goes.
Back when my 00 was stock, I went to the track, teched in, waited the 30 minutes, and went down the track. I always did 4 hot laps, park for 30 min. and repeat.
The first pass was always and I mean always .1 to .15 slower. After enough track trips (I usually go 14-20 times a year) to realize that this was a pattern I tried a little experiment.
After turning the last corner before the track I'd pull over and stop. Keep in mind that this is a back country road. When traffic was clear I would go WOT up to about 70 or so from a stop and then proceed to the track.
No more slow first pass it was the same as the rest. So I always thought that there was something in TM or the trans adaptives that the PCM changed under percieved hard acceleration.
Back when my 00 was stock, I went to the track, teched in, waited the 30 minutes, and went down the track. I always did 4 hot laps, park for 30 min. and repeat.
The first pass was always and I mean always .1 to .15 slower. After enough track trips (I usually go 14-20 times a year) to realize that this was a pattern I tried a little experiment.
After turning the last corner before the track I'd pull over and stop. Keep in mind that this is a back country road. When traffic was clear I would go WOT up to about 70 or so from a stop and then proceed to the track.
No more slow first pass it was the same as the rest. So I always thought that there was something in TM or the trans adaptives that the PCM changed under percieved hard acceleration.
Oh I really think that there's some computer hanky panky going on with the stock LS1 PCM programming as far as this subject goes.
Back when my 00 was stock, I went to the track, teched in, waited the 30 minutes, and went down the track. I always did 4 hot laps, park for 30 min. and repeat.
The first pass was always and I mean always .1 to .15 slower. After enough track trips (I usually go 14-20 times a year) to realize that this was a pattern I tried a little experiment.
After turning the last corner before the track I'd pull over and stop. Keep in mind that this is a back country road. When traffic was clear I would go WOT up to about 70 or so from a stop and then proceed to the track.
No more slow first pass it was the same as the rest. So I always thought that there was something in TM or the trans adaptives that the PCM changed under percieved hard acceleration.
Back when my 00 was stock, I went to the track, teched in, waited the 30 minutes, and went down the track. I always did 4 hot laps, park for 30 min. and repeat.
The first pass was always and I mean always .1 to .15 slower. After enough track trips (I usually go 14-20 times a year) to realize that this was a pattern I tried a little experiment.
After turning the last corner before the track I'd pull over and stop. Keep in mind that this is a back country road. When traffic was clear I would go WOT up to about 70 or so from a stop and then proceed to the track.
No more slow first pass it was the same as the rest. So I always thought that there was something in TM or the trans adaptives that the PCM changed under percieved hard acceleration.
Last edited by bmotwani; Sep 27, 2007 at 03:59 PM.
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