I should have bought a camaro in the 1st place, but I didnt, so theres where I went wrong. Im wondering what you guys would think I would have to pay to trade my car in to a used dealership for a 93-97 Z28 6speed with around 100K miles. These mustangs cost wayy too much to make faster, and Ive always liked camaros. (worked and bought this myself, been saving money forever) Ive got a 1998 mustang gt convertible (4.6L V8), silver (charcoal metalic), black top, 17" GT optional wheels, lowered 1.5 inches , Offroad X (no cats) dual MAC's with 3" tips. Power everything, black leather interior, power top. Very good shape, no dents. I guess what Im getting at is I want to trade and Id like a ballpark figure on what most used car places would give me a deal at. I know theres no way to really tell but Id just like some input. Heres a few pictures if anyone would like to see. Everyone wastes money every now and then, I guess im starting early in life(15years old). Thanks

http://www.photodump.com/direct/hazm.../mystang14.jpg

http://www.photodump.com/direct/hazm.../mystang33.jpg

 

Mustang= The choice car of high school girls everywhere.

find some daddy's girl with too much money and sell it to her.

 

don't mustangs like blowers? A blower cost about the same as a heads and cam package. Don't go trade it into a dealership. Sell it privately on like autotrader and you'll probably break even.

 

96-98 Mustangs are turds. Trust me I know, I have a 97 Mustang convertible. My first setup with the 4.6 NPI made 320rwh with 12psi lol. My second setup NPI made 500rwhp. My third setup I dumped the NPI / 4.6 for a Lightning motor. IMHO LT1 Fbodies and NPI Mustangs (96-98) are in the same exact boat. Both are looked down upon because of how well the newer motors are doing and both have a so-so aftermarket. If you want to make your Mustang fast you have to lose those NPI heads. Theyll ALWAYS hold you back no matter what mods you do. Going with the P.I heads will put you in or slightly LT1 territory. Ported P.I heads will get you above and into LS1 land. Your c/r will raise to 11.1 with the P.I heads but thats fine. If you dont want the added compression and plan on F.I then get SVO heads. My point is for the money you lose and spend to get a LT1 you can spend on your mustang and go faster. Go Ls1 if you can, thats the only way I can see it being worth it. Man I love the 94-98 bodystyle Mustang. You have a wonderfull car.

 

Yes I bought a turd. But its worth it to me, because I hate the 99+ body styles. Im like you I like the 94-98's. I knew buying it that it didnt have the PI heads. But that is a consideration, trying to scavenge some PI heads off a junkyard 99+ GT. I hear the PI head/cam/intake conversion is about $1500. Im certainly not certain on selling my car Im just looking for opinions ya know. My father told me that Ill never have everything I want, so I might as well enjoy what I have and make it better. If I can find a good deal on a trade Ill probably trade, but If I cant im gonna spend the cash on my stang. I think 4.10 gears would really make a difference, theyre a pretty cheap mod compared to everything else. Im still in highschool so I dont have alot of money, I payed for 5 grand of the car, and pay all my insurance and gas, and I work every day afterschool and on saturdays when the weather is good, so I might have enough for a head swap by the end of the summer. I just thought it might be cheaper to trade for an LT1, but Im not sure I dont have money to do anything right now. I really wish I had enough money to keep my stang and buy a camaro, but I know thats not gonna happen I wouldnt want to add a blower to this car until I get PI heads.. I forgot to mention its a 5speed, and I think its got a short shifter, a buddy of mine that had a 94 GT 5speed said they were shorter than his. And the car has 107,5xx miles

 

Seriously its probably best to buy the car u really want, unless u just cant get a good deal on that mustang for a resale. I have not seen very many fast GT mustangs around that are NA. Although ive heard of em, in san diego area i havent seen one yet. Lt1 Fbodies are alot faster then most Gt mustangs in those years but hes right, by the time u get one and mod it. You could probably just have done heads n cam and intake on the mustang and be even faster then stock lt1. If an LS1 comes up, get it. Dont waste time on that GT lol.

 

My roomate has a 96 GT and he is in the same boat... He has done the PI head/cam swap and full boltons and is running the same times(maybe a little better) that what I did when i was stock. 14.0's at 100mph... But that is after THOUSANDS of dollars worth of work... He wants to sell his and get a mach 1 or 01 Cobra. I told him to buy an LS1 but he is too much of a mustang guy.... Anyways he is the slowest of all 4 of us living in the apt....even slower than the V6 camaro....hehehe

 

The swap can be done cheaper if you take your time and look around. If I were you I'd just keep my eyes open on Mustang and Lightning boards for some used P&P heads, used cams stock P.I or aftermarket, and intake. These days a complete P.I motor goes for 1500 and cobra motors go for less than 3000.


It's true. I know Im never happy. The day after I bought my LT1 I was trying to sell it for a LS1. I had to have a really long talk with myself not to do it.

I dont see how youre going to trade it. If you go to a stealership they will do whatever it takes to rape you. I say go 4.30's. Alot of people are doing it and love it. If you fear the gear 4.10's should be fine but dont do 3,73's, such a waste.

It all takes time. I think as long as we have patience and keep our eye on the goal itll all be worth it in the end. My LT1 project is moving very slow and Ive met alot of bumps with it but in the end I know my patience will pay off.

I dont see how itll be cheaper unless someone or some place will trade you straight up which I doubt.

I really wouldnt add a blower to a NPI PI converted car. Your compression will be to high, well high to the point that you couldnt run much boost, would need the very good gas, and a perfect tune. If you know youre going blower then port and polish your heads or get some svo heads.

Dont give up dude. Believe it or not the MUstang doesnt suck despite what people on this board think.

 

Something is wrong with his car or something is missing from this story. Most guys with the P.I swap H/C/I, bolt ons, gears, and skill should be low 13's making at least low 300'srwhp. Now if he has a vert with a 4r70w then those times are understandable. they run 15's stock lol.

 

Bingo

 

Dang. I know life must suck for him. 99+ v6's are just as fast if not faster. It's going to be a long expensive road to make a auto vert 96-98 car faster. He shouldve went with a dohc motor and boost or ported his non p.i heads, got some cams and svo intake and boost, alot of it. Now the best option would be to spray the heck out it. A nice 150 shot should move him out of 4th place.

 

Stock for stock I would say they do. But that's what the aftermarket is for. I agree. If you enjoy the car stick with it. A quote I love from another board sums it all up. "The only thing that beats cubic inches is rectangular dollars." Anything can be fast, pick the car that's going to make you happy in the long run.

 

The LT1 aftermarket isnt much better than the 4.6 aftermarket. The 4.6 after may be slightly better and slighty more expensive.

 

Thats a pretty nice car man, you should keep it and enjoy it. From the pics it looks clean, if it runs good who cares how fast it goes. Once you get older you'll start to see that it's not just about who has a faster car.

 

" Once you get older you'll start to see that it's not just about who has a faster car."

uhh, yeah it is....

just breakin ***** man, that car looks clean. Have always been a fan of silver mustangs, especially with those gt wheels. I never knew those were 17's, always thought they were 16's. good luck bro, keep that thing and just pimp it around. that car will never be in the same league as a z-28 in terms of performance, but then again, a z-28 will never be in the same league as your car in terms of refinement.

and besides, chicks dig mustangs. they ALL know what they are, even if they aren't car people. on the other hand, most chicks don't know what a Z is, or if they do, associate them with White trash/iroc/mullets/guidos/etc,etc.

basically, that car will get you some sweet high school tail.