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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 01:47 PM
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Hi. I was gonna buy a camaro Z28, but had a drawback because i heard they are really, really, reallly, bad and horrfific in snow and rain conditions. Is this true?
Old Apr 26, 2004 | 02:29 PM
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They're just like any car in rain. The one time I did drive my car in snow kind of sucked horribly since there was 4" of snow on the ground and not yet plowed. Rain is fine and F-bodies can easily handle snow if you're careful.
Old Apr 26, 2004 | 02:34 PM
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Question Is a Camaro with 150,000 miles worth 3500$?

Hi.Thanks for your reply camaroman.I am planning to buy this camaro, but it has 150,000 miles (highway miles) and the guy is selling for 3500$. Is this a good buy or not? thanks
Old Apr 26, 2004 | 02:44 PM
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What year? model? tranny? motor?

More details would be helpful.

I managed this winter in my Z without traction control or weight for the back.
Old Apr 26, 2004 | 02:53 PM
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Sorry bout that. Its a 1994 Camaro Z28 green...Exactly like this
www.vr4stealth.com/94camaro898rear.jpg.
Old Apr 26, 2004 | 03:30 PM
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4th gens suck in the snow....

I live in the PNW and it rains A LOT during the winter months and I can honestly say it's not that bad. I have 315's in the back and sometimes it can get a bit squirley on the highway in the deeper puddles (above 65mph). Other than that it gets around in the rain just fine.

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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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Re: Is a Camaro with 150,000 miles worth 3500$?

Originally posted by Camaro144385
Hi.Thanks for your reply camaroman.I am planning to buy this camaro, but it has 150,000 miles (highway miles) and the guy is selling for 3500$. Is this a good buy or not? thanks
Talk him down if you can....its not really a bad price but its not really a good price either.
Old Apr 26, 2004 | 09:19 PM
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in my opinion, all cars suck in the snow .......it just depends how you can handle the camaro's power in the snow
Old Apr 26, 2004 | 11:36 PM
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F-bodies get a bad rep for being bad in snow chiefly because of their OEM tires (wide, low profile). Put a set of snow tires on them, and some weight in the back, and they are just as good as any rear wheel drive car. I drive mine in snow with my BFG gForce KDWS's, put add a couple hundred pounds of weight, and drive slowly and carefully. If theres more than a couple of inches on the ground, I leave the Firehawk parked, and catch a ride with someone with a front-wheel drive car.


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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 08:31 AM
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3500 is not bad for that. I have seen about the same cars go around 6. Get it down to 3000 and a good deal is in hand
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 12:28 PM
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No! It's not the car it's the drivers.
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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Question

How many miles can the camaro (1994 Z28 T-top) reach before i start seeing problems. Is 150,000 miles( highway) too much on it? i heard they only reach 300,000. The guy who is selling appears to be keeping it in great condition, but i still dont know.
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by Mikey 97Z M6
4th gens suck in the snow....

I live in the PNW and it rains A LOT during the winter months and I can honestly say it's not that bad. I have 315's in the back and sometimes it can get a bit squirley on the highway in the deeper puddles (above 65mph). Other than that it gets around in the rain just fine.

Mike
it only sucks because of your tires.
Old Apr 27, 2004 | 07:16 PM
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I drove my Formula through the last Minnesota winter. I had little problems getting to where I needed to go -as in to and from work and home. I did not see the need to drive anywhere other than the required places, and found that knowing the route, allowed me to have no trouble what-so-ever in actually getting from one to the other, as I could look at the road and plan the route accordingly. (Slippery roads required the flatest way home, not the shortest, for instance).

I have no life outside my home, so work and back is all I ever drive. I wouldn't take my Formula anywhere further than 30 or so miles, nor would I take it up to highway speeds in these conditions.

This was on BFG gForce KDWS, and later on a complete set of "off brand" M+S tires, and my manual car. The largest challenge was getting moving, but being able to shift into 2nd allowed for more grip. I also found that despite the slippery surfaces, my Formula had much better stopping power than any of my past cars.

I have no doubt that I could make it through darn near any snow conditions - I made it through several major snowfalls without any trouble (the plows around here run 24 hours a day when need be). My larger concerns (and troubles) came with the ice storms we had. We had a larger than normal amount of these last year, and each one caused trouble -a heavy, thick snowfall, is actually a much better traction source than a road covered with ice, or sleet.

After a couple of snow falls, if we were to have ice, I found it worked well at stops to get over to the side a little more, and onto the packed snow towards the curbs. This gave enough traction for easy take-offs.

One really has to drive for conditions though. Feather light on the gas is an understatement. You almost have to let the car idle through the gears, in the worst conditions, and keep the RPMs as low as possible. I found that hard gas (40-50% throttle) in 4th or 5th gear at less than 2K will be enough to kick the back end out on slick surfaces.

It's a little disheartening to realize any front wheel drive car will be MUCH faster than you in these conditions. And believe me, they'll be some teenagers that'll use this to taunt you. :P

It's also noteworthy to say that if you don't enjoy a controlled powerslide around a wintery corner here and again, that you'll probably not enjoy driving your performance car during the winter, simply because you're bound to see a few of them.
Old Apr 28, 2004 | 07:35 AM
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My 2000 did good til I went with wider tires. My 94 sucked though. People used to call it snow plow because I had the WW ground effects, and the black peice that directs air to your radiator was so big it would scoop the snow.



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