ac evap sensor. where under the dash is it?
ac evap sensor. where under the dash is it?
96 firebird. searched the net and the car for hours... cannot find this &*^$%$ sensor. I have a 94 PCM and motor that I installed into a 96 and this is the last of the wiring issues I need to address.
Its supposed to be under the dash on the passenger side. I have the 3 wire connector but no where to plug it in???
anyone have a picture of it?
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for those swaping motors and/or have trouble with this sensor here is the information you need.
The sensor P/N is GM# 52458970 or ACD# 15-71978. my cost was $31
The sensor is located under the passenger side to the left of the blower motor on the panel the contains the heater core.
there is a bracket to hold the sensor.
The 3 wire connector plugs into the sensor module mounted to the base of the heater core housing. There is a wire for the EVAP temperature probe that leads into the evaporator core housing that is inserted into the evaporator to measure its temperature. your a/c will not work without this probe. If you have MALF 71 or DTC 71 this is the sensor you need to be looking for.
picture of the sensor: http://www.flickr.com/photos/60433308@N00/3550882490/
picture of the sensors location: http://www.flickr.com/photos/60433308@N00/3550079959/
picture of the sensor in car wired up: http://www.flickr.com/photos/60433308@N00/3550077981/
picture of box with part number: http://www.flickr.com/photos/60433308@N00/3550879700/
I was lucky enough to have spent hours searching for something that ended up not being on my car.... don't know why it was not there but ----edited------. hopefully you will not to go through what I did
If you have any questions just ask.
Its supposed to be under the dash on the passenger side. I have the 3 wire connector but no where to plug it in???
anyone have a picture of it?
=====================EDIT========================= ====================
for those swaping motors and/or have trouble with this sensor here is the information you need.
The sensor P/N is GM# 52458970 or ACD# 15-71978. my cost was $31
The sensor is located under the passenger side to the left of the blower motor on the panel the contains the heater core.
there is a bracket to hold the sensor.
The 3 wire connector plugs into the sensor module mounted to the base of the heater core housing. There is a wire for the EVAP temperature probe that leads into the evaporator core housing that is inserted into the evaporator to measure its temperature. your a/c will not work without this probe. If you have MALF 71 or DTC 71 this is the sensor you need to be looking for.
picture of the sensor: http://www.flickr.com/photos/60433308@N00/3550882490/
picture of the sensors location: http://www.flickr.com/photos/60433308@N00/3550079959/
picture of the sensor in car wired up: http://www.flickr.com/photos/60433308@N00/3550077981/
picture of box with part number: http://www.flickr.com/photos/60433308@N00/3550879700/
I was lucky enough to have spent hours searching for something that ended up not being on my car.... don't know why it was not there but ----edited------. hopefully you will not to go through what I did
If you have any questions just ask.
Last edited by S M R; Apr 13, 2010 at 11:00 PM. Reason: god forbid not everyone is pleased
The connector I'm talking about has three wires. blue black and gray. its labeled "a/c evap temp sensor" on your webpage. http://shbox.com/1/harness6.jpg. I cannot find a place to plug it in 
I am getting DTC 71 for the a/c evap sensor.

I am getting DTC 71 for the a/c evap sensor.
according to your web site this is a 3 wire connector. http://www.shbox.com/1/harness_connector_faces.htm on the AC temp sensor connector. ground, 5v ref, and output to PCM.
after more research it appears that this sensor is missing from my donor car..... probably the reason I cannot find where to connect this *&%*&%&* connector and the cause of all of my frustration.
You should take a picture of this connection and update your webpage for those of us who swap motors and end up missing parts
BTW your web page has been very helpfull... except for this issue
I am somewhat disappointed by your suggestion to try and search for the connector... I'm the size of an NFL line backer and getting under the dash is quite difficult to damn near physically impossible for me. Lucky for me a friend showed me what I needed to know.
after more research it appears that this sensor is missing from my donor car..... probably the reason I cannot find where to connect this *&%*&%&* connector and the cause of all of my frustration.
You should take a picture of this connection and update your webpage for those of us who swap motors and end up missing parts

BTW your web page has been very helpfull... except for this issue
I am somewhat disappointed by your suggestion to try and search for the connector... I'm the size of an NFL line backer and getting under the dash is quite difficult to damn near physically impossible for me. Lucky for me a friend showed me what I needed to know.
according to your web site this is a 3 wire connector. http://www.shbox.com/1/harness_connector_faces.htm on the AC temp sensor connector. ground, 5v ref, and output to PCM.
after more research it appears that this sensor is missing from my donor car..... probably the reason I cannot find where to connect this *&%*&%&* connector and the cause of all of my frustration.
You should take a picture of this connection and update your webpage for those of us who swap motors and end up missing parts
BTW your web page has been very helpfull... except for this issue
I am somewhat disappointed by your suggestion to try and search for the connector... I'm the size of an NFL line backer and getting under the dash is quite difficult to damn near physically impossible for me. Lucky for me a friend showed me what I needed to know.
after more research it appears that this sensor is missing from my donor car..... probably the reason I cannot find where to connect this *&%*&%&* connector and the cause of all of my frustration.
You should take a picture of this connection and update your webpage for those of us who swap motors and end up missing parts

BTW your web page has been very helpfull... except for this issue
I am somewhat disappointed by your suggestion to try and search for the connector... I'm the size of an NFL line backer and getting under the dash is quite difficult to damn near physically impossible for me. Lucky for me a friend showed me what I needed to know.
). It's been a while since I have been under there. Next time, I'll consider taking a pic.
Originally Posted by Injuneer
Geeeez.... Rob. You can't please everyone.
I took some pictures of everything if you want them shoebox. Pm me your email and I will send them your way unless you want take your own.
I did not mean any disrespect in my last post... I can be a little sharp when I am frustrated.
I did not mean any disrespect in my last post... I can be a little sharp when I am frustrated.
96 firebird. searched the net and the car for hours... cannot find this &*^$%$ sensor. I have a 94 PCM and motor that I installed into a 96 and this is the last of the wiring issues I need to address.
Its supposed to be under the dash on the passenger side. I have the 3 wire connector but no where to plug it in???
anyone have a picture of it?
=====================EDIT========================= ====================
for those swaping motors and/or have trouble with this sensor here is the information you need.
The sensor P/N is GM# 52458970 or ACD# 15-71978. my cost was $31
The sensor is located under the passenger side to the left of the blower motor on the panel the contains the heater core.
there is a bracket to hold the sensor.
The 3 wire connector plugs into the sensor module mounted to the base of the heater core housing. There is a wire for the EVAP temperature probe that leads into the condenser housing that is inserted into the condenser to measure its temperature. your a/c will not work without this probe. If you have MALF 71 or DTC 71 this is the sensor you need to be looking for.
picture of the sensor: http://www.flickr.com/photos/60433308@N00/3550882490/
picture of the sensors location: http://www.flickr.com/photos/60433308@N00/3550079959/
picture of the sensor in car wired up: http://www.flickr.com/photos/60433308@N00/3550077981/
picture of box with part number: http://www.flickr.com/photos/60433308@N00/3550879700/
I was lucky enough to have spent hours searching for something that ended up not being on my car.... don't know why it was not there but ----edited------. hopefully you will not to go through what I did
If you have any questions just ask.
Its supposed to be under the dash on the passenger side. I have the 3 wire connector but no where to plug it in???
anyone have a picture of it?
=====================EDIT========================= ====================
for those swaping motors and/or have trouble with this sensor here is the information you need.
The sensor P/N is GM# 52458970 or ACD# 15-71978. my cost was $31
The sensor is located under the passenger side to the left of the blower motor on the panel the contains the heater core.
there is a bracket to hold the sensor.
The 3 wire connector plugs into the sensor module mounted to the base of the heater core housing. There is a wire for the EVAP temperature probe that leads into the condenser housing that is inserted into the condenser to measure its temperature. your a/c will not work without this probe. If you have MALF 71 or DTC 71 this is the sensor you need to be looking for.
picture of the sensor: http://www.flickr.com/photos/60433308@N00/3550882490/
picture of the sensors location: http://www.flickr.com/photos/60433308@N00/3550079959/
picture of the sensor in car wired up: http://www.flickr.com/photos/60433308@N00/3550077981/
picture of box with part number: http://www.flickr.com/photos/60433308@N00/3550879700/
I was lucky enough to have spent hours searching for something that ended up not being on my car.... don't know why it was not there but ----edited------. hopefully you will not to go through what I did
If you have any questions just ask.
I'm referring to the single prong connector in this photo that is dangling by itself over the floor http://www.flickr.com/photos/6043330...n/photostream/ I believe your stating that the probe is inserted into the condensor itself correct? Do you have a photo of this? So lost here. thx
I would surmise it is a probe that is inserted into the fins of the evaporator (not condenser).
#3 is the evaporator. http://shbox.com/1/hvac_vacuum.gif
#3 is the evaporator. http://shbox.com/1/hvac_vacuum.gif
I would surmise it is a probe that is inserted into the fins of the evaporator (not condenser).
#3 is the evaporator. http://shbox.com/1/hvac_vacuum.gif
#3 is the evaporator. http://shbox.com/1/hvac_vacuum.gif
And I'm assuming there's no other way to do this other than removing the heater core cover, heater core, and support housing. Just to plug in a little probe into the fins of the evaporator core.
Last edited by z28_4life; Apr 11, 2010 at 03:35 PM.


