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At what boost level is a BOV recommended/required?

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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 11:10 PM
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At what boost level is a BOV recommended/required?

Just as the title says... Is a blowoff valve needed for low boost levels (5-6 psi)? In higher boost applications, will the valve open at any boost > 0psi when you let off the throttle?
Old Mar 28, 2006 | 09:54 AM
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Re: At what boost level is a BOV recommended/required?

If you MAF is located just before the TB, you can run a BOV at any boost level. You didn't tell us what setup you're running; if it's a SC, most installations have the MAF before the blower and you cannot run a BOV as you'll be venting metered air and screw up your air/fuel ratio. Your bypass valve recirculates unused boost when you close the TB blades.
Old Mar 28, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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Re: At what boost level is a BOV recommended/required?

Originally Posted by OBE1 95Z28
If you MAF is located just before the TB, you can run a BOV at any boost level. You didn't tell us what setup you're running; if it's a SC, most installations have the MAF before the blower and you cannot run a BOV as you'll be venting metered air and screw up your air/fuel ratio. Your bypass valve recirculates unused boost when you close the TB blades.

I'm still NA at the moment, but thinking ahead... how about for an STS system? Obviously I would need the BOV to be placed before the MAF sensor, but is it really needed with only 5psi of boost?
Claimed "benefits" of a BOV: (please add if I'm missing something)
1- prevent damage to turbo by pressure backsurge
2- maintain turbo rpms between shifts w/ a manual trans
3- make sneezing noise when it blows off

does anyone have any firsthand experience as to whether or not any of these things are pertinent to a low-boost STS system?
Old Mar 28, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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Re: At what boost level is a BOV recommended/required?

http://www.turbov6camaro.com/BOV.html << good read on how they work

my turbo surges at only 3 psi boost if i don't let off the gas all the way
Old Mar 28, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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Re: At what boost level is a BOV recommended/required?

Originally Posted by viper03af
http://www.turbov6camaro.com/BOV.html << good read on how they work

my turbo surges at only 3 psi boost if i don't let off the gas all the way

EVEN if, or ONLY if you don't let off the gas all the way? Is 3psi your max boost?
Old Mar 28, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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Re: At what boost level is a BOV recommended/required?

Originally Posted by evilundisguised
EVEN if, or ONLY if you don't let off the gas all the way? Is 3psi your max boost?
only if, the BOV does not see vac and never opens..... point is its going to surge at any boost level....

my max boost is 17 psi
Old Mar 28, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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Re: At what boost level is a BOV recommended/required?

Originally Posted by viper03af
only if, the BOV does not see vac and never opens..... point is its going to surge at any boost level....

my max boost is 17 psi
Ah ok. So then the question still is whether or not there will be any benefit to having one with boost levels not exceeding 5 psi...? Will I be risking damage to anything (turbo parts, throttle plate...)?
Old Mar 28, 2006 | 08:19 PM
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Re: At what boost level is a BOV recommended/required?

Originally Posted by evilundisguised
Ah ok. So then the question still is whether or not there will be any benefit to having one with boost levels not exceeding 5 psi...? Will I be risking damage to anything (turbo parts, throttle plate...)?
surge is hard on the turbine over time its wheres it out faster
Old Mar 29, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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Re: At what boost level is a BOV recommended/required?

IMO any system should have a BOV, some people will say autos dont need them but i disagree.

i think any boost system should have a BOV.... even SC systems

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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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Re: At what boost level is a BOV recommended/required?

Originally Posted by viper03af
IMO any system should have a BOV, some people will say autos dont need them but i disagree.

i think any boost system should have a BOV.... even SC systems
That's fine, and I respect your opinion... I just prefer to have as much information, quantitative or qualitative, as possible when learning about something. So keep it coming
Old Apr 1, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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Re: At what boost level is a BOV recommended/required?

I guess I still don't understand why you would need a BOV when utilizing a bypass valve.
Old Apr 1, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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Re: At what boost level is a BOV recommended/required?

Originally Posted by snorkelface
I guess I still don't understand why you would need a BOV when utilizing a bypass valve.
BOV vents into the air

bypass vent it back in front of the maf...... if you vent into the air after the maf the car goes rich and dies
Old Apr 20, 2006 | 04:12 PM
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Re: At what boost level is a BOV recommended/required?

Simply put... BPV for supercharger and BOV for turbo.

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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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Re: At what boost level is a BOV recommended/required?

Originally Posted by blown383
Simply put... BPV for supercharger and BOV for turbo.

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except in the case of blow-through MAF... Then BOV before MAF.
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