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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 10:23 AM
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Using a blower cam with a turbo

Im thinking about ditching my f1a cog drive in favor of a single front mount turbo. Its a 355 lt1 with ported heads, forged rods and pistons, and a comp 224/236 114 lsa at about 550/500 with 1.6 magnum rockers. Im willing to make a cam swap with less difference in intake and exhaust duration, but wondering if anyone has tried this cam before..

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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Kredz28
Im thinking about ditching my f1a cog drive in favor of a single front mount turbo. Its a 355 lt1 with ported heads, forged rods and pistons, and a comp 224/236 114 lsa at about 550/500 with 1.6 magnum rockers. Im willing to make a cam swap with less difference in intake and exhaust duration, but wondering if anyone has tried this cam before..
Cam should be fine if you don't feel like swapping.
Old Sep 17, 2010 | 02:03 AM
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224/236 114lsa has a valve overlap of 2 degree, should be good for turbo.
Old Sep 17, 2010 | 08:13 AM
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I have a cam that BRE specced out for my engine setup that was originally meant for a blower. It's healthy, quite a bit of overlap, ect. then I changed my mind to the turbo. Talked at length with BRE about it and he said it should still work quite well, though it might give up a little bit on the top end, his estimations were about 20 hp. I can live with that.

For inquiring minds, cam is 234/244, .610/.610, 110° LSA.
Old Sep 18, 2010 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Fastbird93
I have a cam that BRE specced out for my engine setup that was originally meant for a blower. It's healthy, quite a bit of overlap, ect. then I changed my mind to the turbo. Talked at length with BRE about it and he said it should still work quite well, though it might give up a little bit on the top end, his estimations were about 20 hp. I can live with that.

For inquiring minds, cam is 234/244, .610/.610, 110° LSA.
This calculator http://www.wallaceracing.com/overlap-calc.php is saying that's 19° of valve overlap. You'd think that would be more than enough to cause a fair reversion problem. I believe turbo cams are typically around -5° to 0° overlap; my custom grind turbo Comp Cam is -4° (224/224 114LSA).
Old Sep 18, 2010 | 08:15 AM
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This calculator http://www.wallaceracing.com/overlap-calc.php is saying that's 19° of valve overlap. You'd think that would be more than enough to cause a fair reversion problem. I believe turbo cams are typically around -5° to 0° overlap; my custom grind turbo Comp Cam is -4° (224/224 114LSA).
Oh I realize this. Believe me, take the TB off and there's obvious signs of reversion inside the manifold. I know that it's not optimal, but while I had the engine on the stand I called BRE and spoke with Bret and he and I talked for quite some time about the cam and he assured me that it wasn't going to underperform and would be fine giving up just a little bit on the upper end. It may not be your "conventional" turbo cam, but I think it'll perform just fine for my application.
Old Sep 19, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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I did the same. I had the same 224/236-114 cam (though the high lift version) with a Vortech T-trim then switched to a turbo. It ran pretty good, but I read too much on the internet and had convinced myself that a cam with a large split was all wrong (with people running reverse-splits and all). So, I got a custom 226/226-114 and it lost power across the board. I wound up putting the 224/236 cam back in and got my power back.

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