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Old May 29, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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Thinking about a turbo....

Ive been doing some thinking here lately and I would really like to turbo my car. I also did a little research on here to see the kits others were running on here. What would be the best turbo kit and turbo head to run with my current setup? I know the cam I have is a N/A cam but Im sure it would still do ok. Can someone give me some prices and suggestions on what would work best with my setup? Im not looking to run alot of boost yet cause of my stock bottom end. I would say 6-7 psi would be enough at first until Im ready for the rebuild. Thanks in advance.
Old May 30, 2004 | 10:50 PM
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anyone??
Old May 31, 2004 | 01:04 AM
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The best and most complete kit is the PTK kit

www.proturbokits.com
Old May 31, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by The Highlander
The best and most complete kit is the PTK kit

www.proturbokits.com
That link doesnt work.
Old May 31, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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That is the correct link, the site just appears to be down at the moment. When I do my turbo motor, I will be going with the PTK kit.

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Old May 31, 2004 | 11:10 AM
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Do you guys think I will have to change my cam or will it be ok?
Old May 31, 2004 | 11:17 AM
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What do you guys think about this site and kit here.......

http://www.forcefedfab.com

They have the complete kit for 3500 with the turbo head and all.

I seen some of the PTK and they were 3500 without the turbo head. The turbo was about 1000 more.
Old May 31, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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There were lots of going on for this guy...

22.5rwhp/psi boost seems a bit more than what I would expect, but then again they are using a large frame t72. which is not a small turbine... its like strapping a T-trim to a factory car....

it should yield good power....

It could be a good idea, i would just like to see a few more pics...

Still 530rwhp needs a lot of fuel.
Old May 31, 2004 | 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by LT1ponykilla
What do you guys think about this site and kit here.......

http://www.forcefedfab.com

They have the complete kit for 3500 with the turbo head and all.

I seen some of the PTK and they were 3500 without the turbo head. The turbo was about 1000 more.
If the LT1/LS1 parts are anything like the v6 pictures, I wouldn't touch that kit!!! Welds look like crap, looks like someone with limited experience was putting that thing together. Intercooler was a tube and fin type as well. Intercooler was mounted right to the bumper support, would have crap for air flow... You get what you pay for!

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Old May 31, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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The cam you have would work, but its far from ideal for a turbo cam. From what I've read up on turbo cams are usually single pattern cams or have more intake duration than exhaust plus the lsa is usually ~114. Too much overlap just bleeds the boost off.
Old May 31, 2004 | 01:54 PM
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The cam you have would work, but its far from ideal for a turbo cam. From what I've read up on turbo cams are usually single pattern cams or have more intake duration than exhaust plus the lsa is usually ~114. Too much overlap just bleeds the boost off.
Well, when I got the cam kit I wasnt even thinking about doing a turbo or blower. I had a nitrous kit at the time but was only spraying a 75 shot. I know most big nitrous cars, blowers, or turbos, usually run a 113-116 LSA but I figure mine should do ok.

A buddy of mine put a Vortech SC on his LT1 with the same mods I have. On 6psi it pulled like a raped ape. I had rode in his car with him spraying a 150 shot then with it on 6psi. For some reason it felt just as fast with 6psi as it did with the 150 shot.
Old May 31, 2004 | 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by LT1ponykilla
What do you guys think about this site and kit here.......

http://www.forcefedfab.com

They have the complete kit for 3500 with the turbo head and all.

I seen some of the PTK and they were 3500 without the turbo head. The turbo was about 1000 more.
I'd stay away from FFF. Lots of V6 guys ordered kits, and I believe they were ordered and paid up in october-november of 03 and still do not have all of their parts. despite the fact that excuses have been posted on the subject, there is no excuse to run a business like that and leave people waiting that long for parts that should have been ready to ship before the kit was even offered for sale. And from what I've seen, FFF kits offer limited potential.
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Thanks man. I will probably end up getting the PTK kit.
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[B]There were lots of going on for this guy...
I'm assuming you are calling BS on me. Aren't you one of the guys who participated in that 11 page thread flaming me for my numbers. I seem to remember offering that engineermike guy a chance to come up here and prove me wrong. He never did. I've since been inside the motor, and sure enough, it was stock as stock can be. For those of you who don't know, I built a turbocharger kit for my LT1 car and made some good numbers both at the track and on the dyno. A few people on this board decided they didn't want to believe it, which is fine. But every time I would post some new information, like clockwork, someone would be there flaming. I offered some of them a chance to come see the car in action, but none of them did. Highlander, if you weren't one of the original flamers, please forgive the above comments.

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22.5rwhp/psi boost seems a bit more than what I would expect, but then again they are using a large frame t72. which is not a small turbine... its like strapping a T-trim to a factory car....
The large frame turbo was well matched to the engine and gave lots of room for upgrades. That way, a person didn't have to buy a new turbo if they decided to get a bit more radical. And it's not like strapping a T-trim on a stock car. Without regard to compressor efficendcy, 12psi is 12psi regardless and the wastegate and boost controller decide that.

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it should yield good power....

It could be a good idea, i would just like to see a few more pics...

Still 530rwhp needs a lot of fuel.
It made good power. It did it reliably for quite some time. I drove the car 450 miles one way, dynoed 470/484 with pumpgas and some 114 mixed in, then drove it home later that weekend. I drove it about 125 miles, dynoed 554/578 on some race gas and drove it home.

I've put the same kit on another local guy who was running my kit, 26lb injectors, and no booster pump and he made 408/421 through an auto at 6psi. It went way lean with just the stock pump so we didn't pull all the way to redline. We'll be installing a booster pump soon so and dynoing again.

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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 10:59 AM
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If the LT1/LS1 parts are anything like the v6 pictures, I wouldn't touch that kit!!! Welds look like crap, looks like someone with limited experience was putting that thing together. Intercooler was a tube and fin type as well. Intercooler was mounted right to the bumper support, would have crap for air flow... You get what you pay for!

Bill
Welds are crap but they were prototyped on the 3.8 liter kit. The 3.4 liter kit I didn't weld up. The production kit is produced and welded by a local mandrel. The prototype stuff was made with a wire feed welder. Now that I am doing more custom work, I've picked up a little Lincoln Weldpac 100 mig and a Miller Syncrowave 180SD tig to do custom work with. We weren't really concerned with weld quality on the 3.8lt prototype kit because it was all about to be reproduced by a professional weldor anyway. No excuses for weld quality other than it wasn't a prime concern at the time.



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