Hey everyone,

I'm seriously considering ordering the LTCC for my S-trim equipped TA. My big question concerns the timing retard. I'm currently using a MSD 6BTM box to control the retard under boost. My question: how do I control the boost retard with the LTCC since it's not compatible with the 6BTM? I know the LTCC can provide spark retard at WOT, but what about when I'm not getting totally into it (part throttle under boost)? This is my daily driver and I seriously want to ditch the opti (well, most of it). Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Chris

 

I don't know the specifics of the LTCC box, but I am in the same situation. I have the 6BTM box right now, and I am considering the LTCC down the road. It is a great box, I know a couple guys who have it and love it. MSD makes a Boost Timing Master that isn't built into the ignition box if I remember correctly. Granted it's one more box and another expense, it may be the only way.

 

the ltcc has timing retard but im not sure if it has boost retard. i know that there a few guys here running the ltcc and turbo/chargers.

 

Wow, I just got to read my e-mails and I have to say that Bob is a stand up guy. I sent him another e-mail at like 8:00 PM last night and he sent one back within an hour. Here's what he said about my boost retard question:

"Well, the nice thing about the centrifugal units like the
vortech is that boost rises with RPM. So an RPM based
retard does an excellent job. The LTCC has an RPM based
retard function, you can set it for .25 - 2 degrees per 1000
rpm (beginning at 3000 rpm) and enable it. This is the way
most of the blower guys run it.

The MSD6 is no longer used."

So basically with the RPM retard and some more computer tuning I should be fine (well add an intercooler and another 33 inches later on and I'll be alot finer ).

I told him I'd be placing my order as soon as he gets some of those valve cover brackets made and put up for sale.

Thanks to everyone who replied, although I'd still like to hear from someone who is using this RPM based retard.

 

Is he finally making those valve cover brackets! Man I think I might have to go LTCC too instead of replacing the O word.

 

Consider mounting those coils under the cowl. Fisher Pontiac sells LS1 coil relocation brackets for $50. Call Abe at: 856-358-6911 M-F 9-5 or email: ABergian@aol.com

Here's a look at my setup. The coils are mounted under the dash on both sides of the engine. The stock LT1 Taylor wires work fine and it's possible, as you can see here, to hide the injector wires under the cowl, as well. Makes pulling the valve covers off a LOT easier and you don't have to worry about pvc/breather/oil filler issues... The coils are pretty well protected by the cowl, as well.

http://www.webpeak.com/~tony/bluez/engine.jpg

 

As cool as that is, this is going to be something that I want people to do a double take on. I haven't seen any of these kits installed on LT1's in J-ville (Florida). Plus there isn't alot of room back there, and it's hard enough adjusting the fuel regulator.

Question: where did you get the piece of metal that goes over the radiator? I'd love to get one of those to cover up mine since I still have the plastic stock piece. Great looking setup by the way.

Man, I'm spending too much money. LTCC setup with coils and brackets, building a new computer, half my suspension is still sitting in my garage, I'm having a new intake pipe made to replace the drier hose I'm using, and the car still needs a trip to the dyno to finish the programming. Man, guess the dyno will have to wait for the LTCC so it can be programmed without the boost box. Ugh!! Oh well, it's expensive, but there's nothing like outrunning the boss's vette (and most other things).

 

$79 at http://www.mbaproducts.com/ comes in red, blue or plain brushed. $37 more gets it polished. Ouch...

You'd have to see the coil setup up close. I'll try to get some pics of the undercowl area. I think there's plenty of room. There's definately other places to mount them, this just presented the best compromise, IMO. Putting them on the valve covers has lots of issues...

I got new coils from this guy: ValveGod@aol.com for $20 each plus $15 handling. Said he had a bunch...

 

I want it, I want it, I want it!! Wow, that site is awesome. You're trying to make me spend my hard earned $$$ aren't you? You got stock in them or something? Just kiddin. Ok, I've got to go to bed now so I can get up for work tonight so I have some $$$ to spend. I need a raise!! I wonder if those guys could make an anodyzed mounting bracket for the coils?? That would be sweet!! Ahh, I'm going to end up spending a fortune. Now I'm going to need an entire LT1 engine so I can build it and dress it up. Then I'll have to wash the car every day!! It's a downward spiral!!

Calm, breathe... Ok, that's better.

Hey, on those relocation brackets, can you mount them to say the inner fender wells with some kind of quick disconnect so the plug wires would only be like 6-8 inches or so?

Later guys