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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 05:17 PM
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sts ls1 dynoed today

got this off the utah board:

Well, we dyno'd the 99 LS1 today up at Phantom. Didn't exactly get what I was expecting but that's O.K. I'll post the dyno charts on the website anyway. Here is the results:

Stock was 320 rwhp at nearly same conditions on same dyno. STS system installed with no tuning went:

416 rwhp and 452 rwtq at 5 psi boost

Then flipped the switch to high boost which is about 7 psi but the gauge read 8 psi during the test so we'll say it was 8. Methanol system runs on high boost only.

509 rwhp and 551 rwtq

Like I said, not what I was expecting. (About 50 hp more actually)

Needless to say, Brian is pretty excited.

Not bad for a couple hour bolt on.

Talk to you later, Rick @ STS


not bad at all cant wait for spring time for some track results!
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 07:14 PM
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I'd like to know what fuel they were running for that.. C16 ??

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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 11:58 PM
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I was running pump gas (91 octane) with no fuel management (other than the STS methanol injection kit) using the stock MAF & PCM.
Old Nov 23, 2003 | 03:40 PM
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Awsome , can you post a graph ??

You have a pm
Old Nov 23, 2003 | 05:25 PM
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Wait, I thought that a rear turbo was completly impossible blah, blah, blah

Let the flaming and banning begin, but I think this is an idea whose time has truely come.

I think what these guys have done is going to impact the automotive world more than our over-inflated egos will let us admit. I bet that within 5 years you will see a similar concept used on a production vehicle as original equiptment.

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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:04 PM
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what are the specs on the turbo you are running with the kit
Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:15 PM
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as far as i know its a 60-1 which is custom built into a TO4E, compressor is good for about 650 hp (65 lbs/min)


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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:45 PM
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Originally posted by 93formula
as far as i know its a 60-1 which is custom built into a TO4E, compressor is good for about 650 hp (65 lbs/min)


off the utah board.
got a linky
Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:53 PM
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http://www.ufba.org/forum/index.php?...d=3476;start=0
Old Nov 23, 2003 | 10:43 PM
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Something gave it more power after the 5psi...

from the first 5psi you get 96HP more .. but with the other 3psi you get another 95HP more???

So question.. the injection system is being used in the 8psi right??? If it is.. the injection system works to boost a lot of power and it can be run with a supercharger also and give it the same advantage...

Let us know
Old Nov 23, 2003 | 10:52 PM
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i believe so, they sell the injection system separatley, the buick turbo guys run similar injection systems as well.
Old Nov 23, 2003 | 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by The Highlander
Something gave it more power after the 5psi...

from the first 5psi you get 96HP more .. but with the other 3psi you get another 95HP more???

So question.. the injection system is being used in the 8psi right??? If it is.. the injection system works to boost a lot of power and it can be run with a supercharger also and give it the same advantage...

Let us know

This is correct -- the methanol injection is running at 8 psi. But... from what I understand, the first couple pounds of boost don't give that much horsepower.
Old Nov 24, 2003 | 12:00 AM
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Originally posted by BBB
Wait, I thought that a rear turbo was completly impossible blah, blah, blah

Let the flaming and banning begin, but I think this is an idea whose time has truely come.

I think what these guys have done is going to impact the automotive world more than our over-inflated egos will let us admit. I bet that within 5 years you will see a similar concept used on a production vehicle as original equiptment.

BBB
I doubt an OEM manufacturer will do that so somebody with an 18 volt sawzall can come swoop on your turbo. LOL. Please don't let this thread grow to 20+ pages, it's just not needed.

EDIT: BTW I am running alcohol injection on my car... I just made a kit for a board member with an S-Trim. If anybody else is interested PM or email me. I will put together a nice kit for ya, I got pics too. I have learned much from my Buick mentors.

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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 09:04 AM
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The first couple pounds of boost aren't as efficient as the turbo isn't in it's efficiency range and you are just starting to overcome the restriction of the exhaust housing.

Methanol system also drops the intake temps so our IAT's were lower at 8 psi by about 45F than they are at 5 psi without the methanol.

We just put one of our Methanol Injection Systems on a supercharged Viper. We dropped his IAT from 220 down to 100F and allowed him to run alot more timing. This system works excellent with any FI system and it is progressive unlike alot of systems out there.
Old Nov 24, 2003 | 09:07 AM
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Well.. then what is making wonders is the methanol if you get 45F less at 8psi than at 5 it means that it will be a lot more efficient even with higher boost, which means a lot more power and better everything...

I am interested in this kit and how long does it last?



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