Shakedown continues at the dyno
Originally posted by Brady_96Z
Congrats Marc, that rocks!
Congrats Marc, that rocks!
Thanks
Hey, if you ever want to franchise out to New England area let me know as I think I'd fit in nicely with the "Team *****" concept

Originally posted by 96Z28SS
"Yeah if the car goes much faster and they make me put a 10 point cage and all the saftey equipment I'll just detune the program and run slower"
"Yeah if the car goes much faster and they make me put a 10 point cage and all the saftey equipment I'll just detune the program and run slower"
I didn't mean I'd make it a 12 second sled, it's just that 10 flat would be fine with me, but let me get back to you after I run 9's and I'll put it to the commitee at that time

IDOXLR8,
I should have the converter back in two weeks, I've got a track rental scheduled for July 14 so it's ***** to the wall that day

It'll be like a mini star trek episode
Captain Kirk - "I need more power"
Scotty replies "Captain, I'm giving her all she's got"

At the rental, hopefully "warp speed" will be achieved

Marc
BTW Do you know when OSCAR is suppose to be released? Last time I checked a month ago they were still working on it. 

Originally posted by 1st and goal
Brady,
Thanks
Hey, if you ever want to franchise out to New England area let me know as I think I'd fit in nicely with the "Team *****" concept
Under oath, I cannot tell a lie, yes these words were echoed by me
I didn't mean I'd make it a 12 second sled, it's just that 10 flat would be fine with me, but let me get back to you after I run 9's and I'll put it to the commitee at that time
IDOXLR8,
I should have the converter back in two weeks, I've got a track rental scheduled for July 14 so it's ***** to the wall that day
It'll be like a mini star trek episode
Captain Kirk - "I need more power"
Scotty replies "Captain, I'm giving her all she's got"
At the rental, hopefully "warp speed" will be achieved
Marc
Brady,
Thanks
Hey, if you ever want to franchise out to New England area let me know as I think I'd fit in nicely with the "Team *****" concept

Under oath, I cannot tell a lie, yes these words were echoed by me
I didn't mean I'd make it a 12 second sled, it's just that 10 flat would be fine with me, but let me get back to you after I run 9's and I'll put it to the commitee at that time

IDOXLR8,
I should have the converter back in two weeks, I've got a track rental scheduled for July 14 so it's ***** to the wall that day

It'll be like a mini star trek episode
Captain Kirk - "I need more power"
Scotty replies "Captain, I'm giving her all she's got"

At the rental, hopefully "warp speed" will be achieved

Marc
Originally posted by IDOXLR8
BTW Do you know when OSCAR is suppose to be released? Last time I checked a month ago they were still working on it.
BTW Do you know when OSCAR is suppose to be released? Last time I checked a month ago they were still working on it.
There are no problems with them (and I've got 654 horsepower to back that statement up
), I'm still running the prototype.He's going to hook me up with a production one when they are finished.
Marc
Originally posted by 1st and goal
The owner / designer / creator is taking some time off to finish up some personal projects (72 Nova and 37 *******) and do some drag racing with those toys. It's been years since he raced and he needs to have some fun. It will probably be September before he is ready to release them.
There are no problems with them (and I've got 654 horsepower to back that statement up
), I'm still running the prototype.
He's going to hook me up with a production one when they are finished.
Marc
The owner / designer / creator is taking some time off to finish up some personal projects (72 Nova and 37 *******) and do some drag racing with those toys. It's been years since he raced and he needs to have some fun. It will probably be September before he is ready to release them.
There are no problems with them (and I've got 654 horsepower to back that statement up
), I'm still running the prototype.He's going to hook me up with a production one when they are finished.
Marc
If you do not mind me asking how much did the entire OSCAR setup cost you? You can pm if you want.
Originally posted by IDOXLR8
When are you getting the converter back? I want to see a 10.10 pass.
When are you getting the converter back? I want to see a 10.10 pass.

I was horrified when I asked how much to get it there by Monday........$145
Tuesday????.......$105
Wednesday ground - $31
I want it back asap but had to cheap out and go for the ground, hell I got to have it shipped back and it's a minumum of $225 for them to restall the converter.
I just hope they take care of me and turn it around quickly.
Let us pray to the Horsepower gods
Originally posted by IDOXLR8
Was the car dynoed on a Mustang dyno? I find it weird that your torque numbers peak out right away like that.
Was the car dynoed on a Mustang dyno? I find it weird that your torque numbers peak out right away like that.
I've found that a good torque converter will cause the torque to peak immediately when you hit the gas. If it doesn't, you need more stall.
Mike
Originally posted by engineermike
IDOXLR8, my cam is on a 114 and the lift is .605" intake / .593" exhaust. I don't have an electronic copy of my dyno sheet, but the torque peaks as soon as you open the throttle (575 ft lb at 3700) and gradually slopes downward. The hp peaks at 6500 with 547. It makes over 500 hp from 4900 and up and only falls to 520 by 7200.
Highlander, you wanted to give it more timing at part throttle, which I see no point in doing. I'm not stepping up to a YS trim because the T trim has the potential to reach my goals. LJ has run 9.90's with an S trim, so I don't think I need a YS. Furthermore, I need to make my current combo work right before making any big changes and throwing more money at it.
My converter is a Vigilante 2800 "0" pump. It acts more like a 4000 due to the torque output of the motor. I don't have a lock-up either (TH-350). What converter is 1st and goal using?
Mike
IDOXLR8, my cam is on a 114 and the lift is .605" intake / .593" exhaust. I don't have an electronic copy of my dyno sheet, but the torque peaks as soon as you open the throttle (575 ft lb at 3700) and gradually slopes downward. The hp peaks at 6500 with 547. It makes over 500 hp from 4900 and up and only falls to 520 by 7200.
Highlander, you wanted to give it more timing at part throttle, which I see no point in doing. I'm not stepping up to a YS trim because the T trim has the potential to reach my goals. LJ has run 9.90's with an S trim, so I don't think I need a YS. Furthermore, I need to make my current combo work right before making any big changes and throwing more money at it.
My converter is a Vigilante 2800 "0" pump. It acts more like a 4000 due to the torque output of the motor. I don't have a lock-up either (TH-350). What converter is 1st and goal using?
Mike
Originally posted by The Highlander
Well.. if you dont want to follow or try some advice....
Well.. if you dont want to follow or try some advice....
I set my A/F ratio to 11.5 - 12.0 / 1 and tried several different timing values on the dyno and kept the best one. I'm not sure how you can think this is so far off.
Mike
Hey, great procharger numbers Marc. Are you running a 12-rib serpentine or cogs?
I'm curious about your tune also.
What is your AFR at WOT?
How about the timing?
All that power on 92 octane?
We can't even get 92 octane around here, only 91 in CA.
I just got my vortech running last week. On the first shakedown run (on the street) it was pretty insane. This car never pulled that hard and was never that fast. Found out a couple of days later that I had advanced the timing with the smartspark 2 degrees everywhere in the curve (base angle) a few months back when I pulled off the procharger and running N/A. So, being conservative, I tried taking out the 2 degrees and retarding it a degree or two and that turned the power and torque down a lot.
It's pretty amazing what a degree or two can do.
They say blown engines make the most power just before detonating, I defineately believe this now.
I surmise on cool days I could run more aggressive timing, but forget it most of the time around here in the summer, it's too hot down here in Socal.
I'm curious about your tune also.
What is your AFR at WOT?
How about the timing?
All that power on 92 octane?
We can't even get 92 octane around here, only 91 in CA.
I just got my vortech running last week. On the first shakedown run (on the street) it was pretty insane. This car never pulled that hard and was never that fast. Found out a couple of days later that I had advanced the timing with the smartspark 2 degrees everywhere in the curve (base angle) a few months back when I pulled off the procharger and running N/A. So, being conservative, I tried taking out the 2 degrees and retarding it a degree or two and that turned the power and torque down a lot.
It's pretty amazing what a degree or two can do.
They say blown engines make the most power just before detonating, I defineately believe this now.
I surmise on cool days I could run more aggressive timing, but forget it most of the time around here in the summer, it's too hot down here in Socal.
Originally posted by engineermike
I will follow or try advice as long as it makes sense, otherwise, I'm not going to waste my time. Raising the timing at part throttle doesn't make sense when we're talking about WOT power.
I set my A/F ratio to 11.5 - 12.0 / 1 and tried several different timing values on the dyno and kept the best one. I'm not sure how you can think this is so far off.
Mike
I will follow or try advice as long as it makes sense, otherwise, I'm not going to waste my time. Raising the timing at part throttle doesn't make sense when we're talking about WOT power.
I set my A/F ratio to 11.5 - 12.0 / 1 and tried several different timing values on the dyno and kept the best one. I'm not sure how you can think this is so far off.
Mike
Originally posted by EDS Z28
Hey, great procharger numbers Marc. Are you running a 12-rib serpentine or cogs?
I'm curious about your tune also.
What is your AFR at WOT?
How about the timing?
All that power on 92 octane?
We can't even get 92 octane around here, only 91 in CA.
Hey, great procharger numbers Marc. Are you running a 12-rib serpentine or cogs?
I'm curious about your tune also.
What is your AFR at WOT?
How about the timing?
All that power on 92 octane?
We can't even get 92 octane around here, only 91 in CA.
The A/F table has a tartet of 11.3:1
This graph www.tta89.net/marc/dynopulls.jpg represents a difference of 2 degrees of timing between each pull. I was using race gas during the tuning.
Street mode will be in the 580 range.
My first pull (didn't post this graph) made 577 on the same tune as the 571 dyno pull but the graph looked funky so I ditched it in favor of the cleaner 571 pull.
I also did a pull using 11.5 a/f target and it made 588 torque but only 650 RWHP
http://www.tta89.net/marc/30deg_11-3...comparison.jpg
I can get a best of 93 octane for street duty, Sunoco stopped carrying 94 octane this spring...Bastards!!
Originally posted by EDS Z28
I surmise on cool days I could run more aggressive timing, but forget it most of the time around here in the summer, it's too hot down here in Socal.
I surmise on cool days I could run more aggressive timing, but forget it most of the time around here in the summer, it's too hot down here in Socal.

Good luck in getting your ride back together

Marc
Originally posted by 1st and goal
The owner / designer / creator is taking some time off to finish up some personal projects (72 Nova and 37 *******) and do some drag racing with those toys. It's been years since he raced and he needs to have some fun. It will probably be September before he is ready to release them.
There are no problems with them (and I've got 654 horsepower to back that statement up
), I'm still running the prototype.
He's going to hook me up with a production one when they are finished.
Marc
The owner / designer / creator is taking some time off to finish up some personal projects (72 Nova and 37 *******) and do some drag racing with those toys. It's been years since he raced and he needs to have some fun. It will probably be September before he is ready to release them.
There are no problems with them (and I've got 654 horsepower to back that statement up
), I'm still running the prototype.He's going to hook me up with a production one when they are finished.
Marc
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