Im looking for 700+ on pump gas i want to go with the PTK single turbo setup air to air intercooled with at minimum a 76gts but i have a bunch of people telling me ths supercharging it would be the better route and id like to get this clarified They tell me that there will be lag and no one in the area to tune it. Now here is the build so far JE Blower pistons -25 cc AFR 210cc heads callies dragonslayer crank with a 8.5.1 compression. Still working on the cam selection Now their argument is that it will have too much lag and will overall be a PITA comparitivly with a supercharger....Also i live in the upstate new york region about an hour and a half from NYC and two hours from albany where is the closest place i could possibly get a good tune for the turbo setup because again ive been hearing its impossible to find a place near hear. comments critisim on build are all welcome and tips please.

 

comon guys i knoiw it seems like a stupid question id just like to put this sargumnent bhind me with my buddies i tell the the turbo should have no spooling problems am i mistaken and is it really that big of a pain to tune and can i get it tuned in the northeast (look at above post for location) Teve just been bugging the hell out of me and id to show them some solid evidence

 

Sorry I can't help you with the turbo lag question. But, if you are only 1.5 hours from NYC, then I would call The Turbo People and get Chris Jobes to tune your car. They are on Long Island. He tuned my buddy's car and was very reasonable.

 

I personally like superchargers better for street performance mainly becuase its easier to come into boost softly and not blow the tires away. On the track thats not as much of a problem. You're going to need some serious tuning to be in the 700 rwhp range so plan on driving it to a tuner either way. Superchargers are a little less complex but with all things being equal the turbo will provide a little more horsepower.

 

Honestly, in order for a blower to make the same power as a T76, you will need a YSI or F1 blower. I am talking about max power. The T76 has made 950rwhp. Now if you want 700rwhp on pump gas, I still dont think a T trim or D1 will get you there on PUMP gas. You will need probably ~18psi for the blowers where you will probably only need 12-15psi from a PTK T76 kit. I dont think spool is a problem. 700rwp blower or 700rwhp turbo, your gonna want a good tune. If you dont think there is someone near you capable, dont do either.

Hopefully engineermike will chime in wth his impressions of a T76.

 

Do you have a number i can call web adress or somthing i am extremely interested?

 

http://www.turbopeople.com/

Wow, I had the name wrong, It's Job Spetter.. I don't knwo where I got Chris Job from ..

 

Ok so what im getting out of this the tuning aspect is exactly where i thought it would be with either route be it s/c or turbo at these levels of power and lag dosent look like itll be an issuse with the turbo. Because what i am getting from people is i will have no low end either which i find hard to beleive after the results ive seen on the PTK kit.

 

The turbo will be more difficult to tune and will also have lag. However, it has a sizable power advantage over the blowers. At the same boost level, the turbo will always make more power. The T-76GTS has been as high as 990 rwhp. NO T-trim has been that high and I doubt any YSi's have been there either.

Don't say you won't have any low-end either way. The turbo will make waaaay more low-end than you can use - once the boost kicks in. How about 1000 ft-lb at 3500 rpm (no kidding)? The supercharger will be a little soggy down low, though.

Mike

 

Ok one last question cost wise they seem to be about the same? hidden costs in either? The superchager seems to cost about the same and then the larger head unit rquired whats your take on this mike? Also they brough reliability into play id assume they are similar in that area? (Im only doing for the sake of settling this with my buds and myself thanks for all the help)

 

Any word on what you did man?

What are the differences between a 76GTS and a T76? Just brand name?

 

Either way you go you will be spending BIG money. I have had the blower setup and now have switched to the PTK kit with a 76GTS. My goal is 900+ RWHP. Although I might have Jose at Forced Inductions modify my 76 with a larger wheel to get around 100hp. I guess then it really wont be a t-76GTS making 1,000rwhp but what the hell! and who has to know anyway But yeah back to the money thing, it aint cheap. Go with the turbo. You will be glad you did.

 

The 76GTS or 76MPS will be what you want.

 

700rwhp on pump gas is a tall order. Have you checked your bank balance? There are many people who want to sing this tune, but few who do. And how many of them actually have running cars?

Rich