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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 08:10 PM
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MAF and S trim ?

Is anyone running their maf after the supercharger instead before? A guy that has a dyno told me he recomends putting it after.
Old Jun 5, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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Yup. It is actually the prefered way....profided you can vent the bypass before the MAF. Please do a search and you will see why.

With a non-aftercooled system, you will need to cut some material off of the plastic discharge tube as well as the Vortech intake elbow to allow room for the MAF.

Search...and let us know any concerns/comments.

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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by boosted-lt1
Yup. It is actually the prefered way....profided you can vent the bypass before the MAF. Please do a search and you will see why.

With a non-aftercooled system, you will need to cut some material off of the plastic discharge tube as well as the Vortech intake elbow to allow room for the MAF.

Search...and let us know any concerns/comments.

-Scott.
Scott - did you do yours that way? I've been thinking about it, but haven't done it yet.
Old Jun 6, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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Kevin,

That's the way I did it. I cut as much as possible from the Vortech elbow, right up to the flow divider.

Cutting the plastic discharge tube has its drawback. You lose the lip on the end and getting the connector to stay on is tricky.

It hasn't come apart at 7psi, but it might with more.

-Scott.
Old Jun 6, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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Kevin,

That's the way I did it. I cut as much as possible from the Vortech elbow, right up to the flow divider.

Cutting the plastic discharge tube has its drawback. You lose the lip on the end and getting the connector to stay on is tricky.

It hasn't come apart at 7psi, but it might with more.

-Scott.
Hey I'm from michigan too. Do you ever go out on woodward during the weekends? A few of us from motown muscle go out every weekend. I'd like to check out how you set yours up.
Old Jun 6, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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Kevin,

That's the way I did it. I cut as much as possible from the Vortech elbow, right up to the flow divider.

Cutting the plastic discharge tube has its drawback. You lose the lip on the end and getting the connector to stay on is tricky.

It hasn't come apart at 7psi, but it might with more.

-Scott.
Scott, I would think you could use mild heat to make a new lip on the plastic elbow. Maybe I'll get brave & try it on mine. did you get a better idle?
Old Jun 6, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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RICEFEDZ28: Naw, I really haven't been in to the Tele/Gratiot stuff in a while. Your welcome to check the car out anytime though. BTW, you've got a real nice ride.

Kevin Blown 95 TA: I didn't really get a better idle or SOTP improvement. Just peace of mind. Took an hour and was free. The air venting from the bypass is pretty toasty when everything is hot and heatsoaked, so I'm glad it's not going back into the blower. I suppose I'd rig up a lip of sorts if I had a real problem keeping the tubing together. I can just get everything snug, with some work, and it stays together at 7psi.

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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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Re: MAF and S trim ?

i have heard that it's harder to tune one with the MAF right before the elbow.

Truth or fiction???

I am very interested in doing this.
Old Jun 6, 2006 | 11:21 PM
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Re: MAF and S trim ?

I tried moving my maf post charger and I never could get it tuned right. I instantly picked up a surging problem at normal driving speeds under light throttle and I never could tune it out. I ended up moving it back pre-charger and it went back to smooth crusing.

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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 11:53 PM
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ouch, that's not what I wanted to hear...

you tune yourself/dyno tune/mail order?
Old Jun 7, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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Anyone have any pictures?
Old Jun 7, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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I tune myself sprayed. I just had a real hard time. I didn't think it would have made that much of a difference moving it from intake side to pressure side, but it did and I could never get it tuned to how it ran on the intake side, so I wen't back. I never really had any issues with it on the intake side. I just moved it looking for some kind of improvement, but got more problems then anything else. But that was my situation. Maybe others here have had better luck.

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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 03:59 PM
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I have had good results moving the MAF to the pressure side. Cut some of the discharge and some of the elbow and it will fit snugly. Mine fits so tight that it would be almost impossible to blow the tube off unless you are running a good amount of boost.

There is no way tuning could be worse with the MAF up top. In theory, you are simply reducing the possible places that you could have post-maf air leak. It should not affect tuning, and it hasn't in my case. I guess if you have alky injection before the maf it could fudge things up but my alky nozzle is right before the TB.
Old Jun 7, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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Re: MAF and S trim ?

If I do move it will it have to be tuned?
Old Jun 7, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RICEFEDZ28
If I do move it will it have to be tuned?

sounds like it's hit or miss...

some people say that they had to tune their car for a hotcam or it would barely run...mine did fine with a stock tune and a hotcam (different story with the blower cam).

I think I will try it on mine, hopefully I won't tear up too much of the discharge tube or elbow in case I do choose to switch back eventually.



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