Front mount question.
What happens when you add feet to the length of the intercooler piping? As in moving it to the front of the car.
Can it become that more efficient so as to overcome the extra length, weight and placement of weight in the chassis?
Thanks.
Can it become that more efficient so as to overcome the extra length, weight and placement of weight in the chassis?
Thanks.
From an engineering standpoint, there are a few points that need to be addressed. 1) Adding more piping will cause more head losses and therefore, make the blower/turbo work harder, producing more heat. 2) This may be offset by a better place for the same intercooler. If you position the intercooler where it is doing a better job of cooling the air, the net effect of the two points is a positive gain. 3) Use a different intercooler to cool the charge even more efficiently.
NOTE: The addition of piping is rarely a concern as it won't make a noticeable difference (unless you've got 5 laps of piping around the car that is all I/C piping: D). Therefore, if you have the means, mount the I/C up front and run the necessary piping.
JB
my I/C location
NOTE: The addition of piping is rarely a concern as it won't make a noticeable difference (unless you've got 5 laps of piping around the car that is all I/C piping: D). Therefore, if you have the means, mount the I/C up front and run the necessary piping.
JB
my I/C location
NOTE: The addition of piping is rarely a concern as it won't make a noticeable difference (unless you've got 5 laps of piping around the car that is all I/C piping: D). Therefore, if you have the means, mount the I/C up front and run the necessary piping.
JB
my I/C location [/B][/QUOTE]
I figure it would take 3-4' to the intercooler, and another 4-5' back to the intake. Would it be worth it? Or would I be better off running an electric fan on the i/c? Has the fan thing been done?
JB
my I/C location [/B][/QUOTE]
I figure it would take 3-4' to the intercooler, and another 4-5' back to the intake. Would it be worth it? Or would I be better off running an electric fan on the i/c? Has the fan thing been done?
I did it on my old Procharger and noticed an increase of boost @ the gauge. I think this was because of the solid tubing not collapsing under load like the stock rubber elbows would. My car ran a tad hotter than usual, but I think there were other factors that had to do with that (lots of crap on the radiator for one). I didn't run an electric fan on it either. I probably should have, but never got around to it.
I know Marc Rahn (1st and goal) had a pretty good page on relocating the intercooler. He tweeked his setup several times and it's all documented.
I know Marc Rahn (1st and goal) had a pretty good page on relocating the intercooler. He tweeked his setup several times and it's all documented.
Back when I was running 4.5# of boost on my stock motor and exhaust. My friend and I relocated my 2 core to the front. I noticed a drop in IAT temps about 5-7 degrees at normal driving and about ~7-10 or so at WOT. Also, my COOLANT temps dropped to about 5-10 degrees, I was told it was because the IC was not restricting the flow of the radiator by being under the car, in other words it was letting the hot air that already went thru the Radiator to escape easier. Not only that, but I got my ground clearance back... I would suggest doing the mod. All reading were done by my scanmaster. You can click on my sig to see pic of the IC front mounted.
Hope that helps,
Claude
Hope that helps,
Claude
I hope I have enough room. I can't use the stock ATI setup anyway but I can use most of the tubing that came with the kit. I will just have to add some pieces to it. From the looks of it, I think I might be able to do a front mount. I hope so, need all the clearance I can get and lower air temps would be nice. Heck, any boost at all would be good right about now.
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