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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 05:16 PM
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Dyno Time for 91mm

Ok here is the scoop. The t-91 is on and I made some adjustments and wanted to break the 1000rwhp mark, but my boost controler broke and all I could get was 8-9 psi of boost. I had a problem with IAT (up to 178 deg F) and 10 to 1 AF ratio - i think mostly do to high IAT's. I will adjust that correction table. On the low boost I backed off at 6000rpm and still made 575rwhp. However, the graph looks like a supra dyno graph, but with a perfect linier line - Y=X(2). Looks like it will need some NOS to get off of the line. The hp line and tq line never started to drop and looked like it would be good to 7000rpm.

I wanted to do some pulls at 30psi but could not get the controler to work with me. I will get that fixed and try it again. See my web shots page under new system and give suggestions please.

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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 08:05 PM
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What are you doing to be able to crank the boost to 30 psi? Are you o-ringed and copper gasketed, or just running a comedic gasket and studs?
Old Sep 11, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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Comedic with 1/2" studs

I have been to 28psi before on like combo, However, the tune must be right on with no det. That is why my IAT's concern me....time for the meth injection. (ps. three core procharger race intercooler)

Like i said, look it over, give comments...I want this system to rock like it did on the dyno before.

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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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Aren't stock head bolts 7/16? What do you have to do to install 1/2" studs? Obviously bore the head bolts holes, but do you drill and re-tap the block?

One more. . . does the ATI 3 core intercooler fit well? Where does it mount?
Old Sep 14, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=317397

Originally Posted by engineermike
Aren't stock head bolts 7/16? What do you have to do to install 1/2" studs? Obviously bore the head bolts holes, but do you drill and re-tap the block?

One more. . . does the ATI 3 core intercooler fit well? Where does it mount?
Old Sep 15, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by engineermike
Aren't stock head bolts 7/16? What do you have to do to install 1/2" studs? Obviously bore the head bolts holes, but do you drill and re-tap the block?

One more. . . does the ATI 3 core intercooler fit well? Where does it mount?
No failure with my block yet, however I do have another block just in case.

Front mount intercooler moved all the way to the openings of fog lamps - no internal bumper... fits real nice...it is actually a mustang intercooler - open on each end.

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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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Thats High IAT temps. MY IAT's with a front mount cooler rarely get over 110 degrees. Unless I make back to back passes. Front mount all the way with these cars.
Old Sep 19, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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Car looks good but get rid of that aeromotive pump if your using it under boost. thats the setup I was going to do if I didnt do twins but all the turbo shops said I wouldnt be fun to drive with a 6spd.
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 07:07 AM
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Car looks good but get rid of that aeromotive pump if your using it under boost. thats the setup I was going to do if I didnt do twins but all the turbo shops said I wouldnt be fun to drive with a 6spd.
I kept breaking my six-speeds like you did. I then had J&W build me a full-on race t400...I like it so far. I have not had any problems for a couple years with the aeromotive pro-pump, but I will keep it in mind. The problem with the high IAT was the dyno fan or lack of one and 100 deg avg temps outside and 115 in the garage.

Last friday night I got the problem with the boost controlers fixed and we had some cool air. The numbers were back to where they should be now. However, officials said that I needed to change some things with my cage if I was going to be running in the 8:99 to 9:50 to often - IHRA track and 8-point like cage I am getting ready to dump the TA body for a Camaro body a year newer and 200 pounds lighter...I will start that in a couple of weeks. So let me know if any one wants a nice ta body with everything but engine, wheels and trans...stock with frame connectors and cage.

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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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Yeah i just put the 97 dash in my car looks a lot better then the old 94'. I have had a body kit on the car for a while now, but im getting sick of fixing the front end when the Ground effects hit the ground from hard braking. Front shocks are not that great but it throws the front end up just find, it just doesnt rebound that great.

What parts in the 6spd did you break? I put the viper stuff in mine, but im not sure what broke yet. I know its not the Input shaft but the motor is still spining the tranny its just not applying power to the tires, which makes me think mainshaft.
Old Sep 20, 2005 | 03:49 PM
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Yeah i just put the 97 dash in my car looks a lot better then the old 94'. I have had a body kit on the car for a while now, but im getting sick of fixing the front end when the Ground effects hit the ground from hard braking. Front shocks are not that great but it throws the front end up just find, it just doesnt rebound that great.

What parts in the 6spd did you break? I put the viper stuff in mine, but im not sure what broke yet. I know its not the Input shaft but the motor is still spining the tranny its just not applying power to the tires, which makes me think mainshaft.
Yes i think we all go the viper route in hopes that will work. I was breaking third gear. Boost was real strong by third and it just would not hold. I thought for sure I would bust 1st or 2nd as hard as I hit it, but third was the weak one. With the auto I do not pull the front up much any more, 0 - 60 is down a tad, but et improved. I am using a 4000rpm converter right now, but with the newer turbo a 5000 or 5500 would be great. Not the best on the street though.

Man isn't 1000rwhp great on the street!!!! I love the look on the faces of sportbike riders when they catch back up. They always have this look like they got pimp slaped.

What clutch setup are you running? Just wondering...

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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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I think you will far surpass 1000rwhp at 30psi. Brent from turbomustangs.com has a Dart block'd 302 (or 306?) with a single T-88 in a fox body. At 28-30psi he dyno'd a touch under 1100rwhp. After cooling the engine down, icing the intercooler and intake, he made another pull and got 1178rwhp! (no nitrous) Never reved the engine over 5500rpm neither. He posted the dynograph (very impressive torque curve), and i have the video of the 1178rwhp pull on my computer... it seemed rediculously effortless. I'm sure it's all still there on the boards if you want to check it out.

Anyways, good luck! Get a vid of the pull if you can please
Old Sep 21, 2005 | 12:25 PM
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Yeah i just put the 97 dash in my car looks a lot better then the old 94'.
i would have swapped the other way around. 97 dash is ugly imo

What parts in the 6spd did you break? I put the viper stuff in mine, but im not sure what broke yet. I know its not the Input shaft but the motor is still spining the tranny its just not applying power to the tires, which makes me think mainshaft.
have you removed teh DS yet?
when i broke my t56 i took out the DS and part of the output shaft was stuck in it.
i havnt gotten around to testign out my new t56, it should hold up fine to 1000+ to the rear.

I think you will far surpass 1000rwhp at 30psi. Brent from turbomustangs.com has a Dart block'd 302 (or 306?) with a single T-88 in a fox body. At 28-30psi he dyno'd a touch under 1100rwhp. After cooling the engine down, icing the intercooler and intake, he made another pull and got 1178rwhp! (no nitrous) Never reved the engine over 5500rpm neither. He posted the dynograph (very impressive torque curve), and i have the video of the 1178rwhp pull on my computer... it seemed rediculously effortless. I'm sure it's all still there on the boards if you want to check it out.
Man isn't 1000rwhp great on the street!!!! I love the look on the faces of sportbike riders when they catch back up. They always have this look like they got pimp slaped.
man your makign me want to put my setup in my car and run it. its veryyy tempting.

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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 01:08 PM
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Aggie, maybe this will give you a little motivation

http://www.turbomustangs.com/forums/...threadid=35938

Videos of the 1138 and 1177 pulls (scroll down to "SWT Racing's" post see them, they still work):
http://www.turbomustangs.com/forums/...0&pagenumber=2

There are some other wicked cars on that site too. Brent revved the engine a little higher on those pulls, somewhere in the 6k's. VERY impressive for a little 302..... wingnut's car should pull more if he goes overboard with it
Old Sep 21, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by aggiez28
i would have swapped the other way around. 97 dash is ugly imo

have you removed teh DS yet?
when i broke my t56 i took out the DS and part of the output shaft was stuck in it.
i havnt gotten around to testign out my new t56, it should hold up fine to 1000+ to the rear.

man your makign me want to put my setup in my car and run it. its veryyy tempting.

brook
Dude your my hero and motivation...i wish you would keep your system and put the beast together You are right about that ds thing...I bent my stock one before the FI.

Thanks Fast Caddie for the vids...man that is cool, powerful stang

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