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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 08:50 PM
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Denso plug/ electrode mod ?

I know the spark plug question has been beat to death, but this is a little different.

My T/A has Denso IT16 Iridium spark plugs installed (previous owner) and I was curious if these are a bad plug to run for this car. From all the posts I have read, it seems that everyone shys away from all the fancy plugs w/ forced induction. The Denso's have been in the car for at least 3,000 miles (how long i've owned it) and seem to work fine.

I pulled a plug to see how they were holding up:
- the metal body surrounding the ceramic tower is black
-the ceramic portion is dark tan
-the electrode has sections that are black as well (I will post up a pic soon)

Second question not related to the Denso plug; does anyone cut back their electrode? I have read that this simple mod can net substantial HP in FI cars?

Thanks in advance,
John

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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 10:50 AM
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Those plugs seem to work well. A lot of the import turbo guys use them. They are like $6 a pop.
Old Oct 2, 2003 | 01:10 PM
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Good deal. I wanted to ensure that I wasn't opening myself up to problems down the road because of a poor choice in plugs. Do you forsee complications with using nitrous and FI on these plugs? I have sprayed a few times with no problems thus far, but I like to error on the side of conservecy.
Old Oct 2, 2003 | 02:10 PM
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from what I have hurd these plugs are like the MSD box for spark plugs if you catch my drift. I have not read much into it as for advantages but I would assume better spark to the electrode as rpm increase, probably allowing a bigger gap. Someone else may be able to give more info. Im not much for spending 6-8 per plug so never looked into it.
Old Oct 2, 2003 | 02:53 PM
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Something to watch for is heat retention of the plug, leading to pre-detonation. Platimiun plugs don't disipate heat as well as copper plugs. I can't comment on iridium plugs for heat disipation.

Spark plugs gaps are reduced for SC cars (usually .035" - .040")to prevent the spark from being "blown out" due to the increase in air flow. An aftermarket ignition box/coil generates a hotter spark to also help.
Old Oct 2, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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This gets more interesting by the minute. The Crane HI-6 kit that was supplied w/ the Vortec unit is installed, so spark intensity shouldn't be an issue. I'll measure the gap tonight to see where it was set at. Additionally, the car is pushing 6 lbs of boost at 4,500 feet above sea level, which is odd for a factory set-up (this should only generate 4 lbs at this altitude....if it has a stock pulley).

What is the difference between pre-detonation and detonation?

VR,
John
Old Oct 2, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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There is no such thing as pre-detonation.

There is a thing called detonation, and there is a thing called pre-ignition.
Old Oct 2, 2003 | 06:40 PM
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Iridium will transmit the heat away faster than platinum, but not as quickly as copper will. It will be more prone to hotspotting due to the design of the plug.

I would stick with a copper plug in a FI application, though the Ir plugs are a better choice than Pt.


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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 09:36 PM
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Pre-ignition is the proper term. Detonation is supposed to occur when your spark plug fires, not before. If you have a hot spot, your air/fuel mixture can fire prematurely (pre-ignition), cause the engine to knock and cause damage.
Old Oct 2, 2003 | 10:01 PM
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So the copper plug is the way to go. Understood.

Now, has anyone cut back the ground electrode to where it only covers part of the center electrode? A recent magazine article used this procedure to net some additional power out of a forced induction motor. Just curious if anyone has put this into practice.

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