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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 08:25 PM
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Tune required after header install?

I'm looking to install Kooks stainless steel headers instead of just replacing exhaust gaskets on on the stock exhaust manifolds. Will a tune be required afterwards?

Also, I've read that on a kooks install we lose the oil level sensor? Or is that just on specific models?
Old Oct 11, 2019 | 08:32 PM
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Re: Tune required after header install?

I was looking at this thread:

https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/exh...review-865570/
Old Oct 12, 2019 | 08:14 AM
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Re: Tune required after header install?

Generally on 93-95 cars no tune is needed, on 96 and later a ‘tune’ is needed to turn off the rear O2 sensors so it doesn’t trip the check engine light (93-95 cars don’t have rear O2 sensors).
Old Oct 12, 2019 | 10:06 AM
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In my experience the car will run a bit leaner after the header install. If you're on a stock tune to begin with then I would say that's a good thing.
I had already (DIY) tuned my car before getting headers/exhaust, tweaking it after the install was worth another tenth in the 1/4 mile.
Old Oct 12, 2019 | 09:53 PM
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Re: Tune required after header install?

That's good news. I would guess the FTs would adjust.
Old Oct 12, 2019 | 11:20 PM
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Re: Tune required after header install?

Cruising trims will adjust, power enrichment is a different animal. I'm a bit rusty on how PE works (with stored BLM values) in a stock tune but it is typically so rich that a small percentage variation isn't going to matter.
Old Oct 12, 2019 | 11:40 PM
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Re: Tune required after header install?

In theory, the headers improve volumetric efficiency. Higher VE means higher mass air flow. The MAF sensor picks up the added mass air, and the PCM makes its normal calculation to add the extra fuel to match the extra air mass. No involvement of the LTFT's, no leaning out in closed loop, and no leaning out in PE mode. Since a failure of the MAF sensor causes the PCM to default to speed-density, tweaking the VE table might be in order.

In a 93, with its speed-density setup, the VE table would have to be adjusted in the tune, so that the speed-density calculation of mass air flow reflects the changes in VE.

In reality, in mass air, there may be some minor changes due to relocation of the O2 sensors, improved scavenging during cam overlap, etc. Probably not enough to require a tune. BUT.... a tune on a totally stock engine can yield a 10-15 HP improvement in peak HP. This is accomplished by leaning out the stock tune’s overly rich target A/F ratio (~11.7:1) in PE mode, to something in the range of 12.8-13.2:1. Why not do that now?

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Old Oct 13, 2019 | 01:08 AM
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Re: Tune required after header install?

No involvement of the LTFT's
MAF mode will involve the BLM (a.k.a. LTFT) values, at least in 94-95 cars.
I had to look it up (memory hole) but it appears that the pcm will add additional fuel to PE mode if BLMs are above 128 (i.e. lean condition)

PE mode uses a set of tables that add a percentage of fuel to 14.7:1 to achieve a richer mixture.

Power enrichment, as it does not use the oxygen sensors, does not operate in closed loop. However, this mode is special on the LT1, as it does use the block learn mode memory for its base fueling calculation.

PE calculations begin by trusting 14.7:1 to be whatever the BLM value in the cell you just happen to be in, but only if the value is higher than 128 (the engine was running lean). This is a safety mechanism, as a lean condition during PE may be dangerous.

There is a patch to work around this called a BLM locker, which locks the BLM to 128 whenever PE is entered, ensuring your calculations are fully "open loop".
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Re: Tune required after header install?

My point was NOT that the BLM (LTFT) is not used in PE mode. My point was that adding headers should be picked up by the MAF sensor, and there would be no impact on the BLM's in the first place. Hence adding headers does not require a differentiation between closed loop or PE.
Old Oct 13, 2019 | 10:59 AM
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My point was that adding headers should be picked up by the MAF sensor, and there would be no impact on the BLM's in the first place.
And I was saying that this is not accurate according to what I saw on my car/tune. It ran between 3-5% leaner across the board.
Old Oct 13, 2019 | 11:36 AM
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Re: Tune required after header install?

That's why I prefaced my first post with the words "in theory". And then expanded it with the words "in practice".
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