2002 Camaro Z28 Pacesetter Header Question
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2002 Camaro Z28 Pacesetter Header Question
I have a 2002 camaro z28 and I am thinking of adding pacesetter headers and a catback magnaflow exhaust. I have a few questions about the oxygen sensors and catalytic convertor. I live in Texas so we are required to pass an emission test during inspection. With that being said, I am thinking of going with the Pacesetter longtube headers with O2 sensors holes already in the headers. I am thinking of buying the pacesetter off road y pipe also.
There are a total of (4) O2 sensors, two before the current cat and 2 after. I want to place one high flow cat after the y pipe. Is this possible??
Also what about the 2 downstream O2 sensors? How do I fit those into the new system? I dont want to be driving around with an SES light, it will bug the crap out of me.
Going to use band clamps for all connections.
There are a total of (4) O2 sensors, two before the current cat and 2 after. I want to place one high flow cat after the y pipe. Is this possible??
Also what about the 2 downstream O2 sensors? How do I fit those into the new system? I dont want to be driving around with an SES light, it will bug the crap out of me.
Going to use band clamps for all connections.
Last edited by jsviking08; 04-02-2014 at 07:54 AM.
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Re: 2002 Camaro Z28 Pacesetter Header Question
Anything is possible, but.... why do you want to go from 2 cats to a single cat? Do they do a "visual" inspection? If so, you usually can't pass with a single cat on a car that was originally equipped with dual cats. You are already relocating the cats with long tube headers, which is technically a violation of Federal law, which prohibits relocating the cats, or changing the number of cats. Not all states/locales enforce the Federal law.
Additionally, you will get less pressure loss (= power loss) through a high flow cat in each branch of the Y-pipe, rather than a single cat in the intermediate pipe.
If you go ahead with the single cat in the intermediate pipe, you have three choices for the after-cat O2 sensors: 1) weld bungs for both sensors in the intermediate pipe, after the single cat; 2) get O2 "sims" to eliminate the after-cat sensors and not get codes/SES light; 3) have the after-cat O2 sensors "programmed out" of the PCM to eliminate the codes/SES light.
Additionally, you will get less pressure loss (= power loss) through a high flow cat in each branch of the Y-pipe, rather than a single cat in the intermediate pipe.
If you go ahead with the single cat in the intermediate pipe, you have three choices for the after-cat O2 sensors: 1) weld bungs for both sensors in the intermediate pipe, after the single cat; 2) get O2 "sims" to eliminate the after-cat sensors and not get codes/SES light; 3) have the after-cat O2 sensors "programmed out" of the PCM to eliminate the codes/SES light.
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Re: 2002 Camaro Z28 Pacesetter Header Question
What would be my options for adding two cats? Would I add a cat between each header and where they attach to the y pipe??
What does deleting the downstream O2 sensors do to the performance of the car?? Where can I get this done? Reasonable price to program out downstream O2s??
What does deleting the downstream O2 sensors do to the performance of the car?? Where can I get this done? Reasonable price to program out downstream O2s??
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Re: 2002 Camaro Z28 Pacesetter Header Question
You could bolt a cat directly to the collector flange for each header. Then start the Y-pipe immediately after the cat. I used that approach with my 94 after the stroker build - a 3" CarSound cat bolted to each collector, and a custom 3" Y-pipe into a 4" intermediate pipe, using a Flowmaster 3" to 4" merge.
You need to see if Pacesetter makes a Y-pipe that incorporates the two cats. I know Kooks and SLP have dual-cat Y-pipes for 98-02 F-Bodies. I found this one at Texas Speed - says it fits Pacesetter:
https://www.texas-speed.com/p-292-te...ed-y-pipe.aspx
You need to see if Pacesetter makes a Y-pipe that incorporates the two cats. I know Kooks and SLP have dual-cat Y-pipes for 98-02 F-Bodies. I found this one at Texas Speed - says it fits Pacesetter:
https://www.texas-speed.com/p-292-te...ed-y-pipe.aspx
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Re: 2002 Camaro Z28 Pacesetter Header Question
This looks like a great way to go. I think I will do the texas speed 1 7/8 headers with Texas Speed catted y pipe.
What does deleting the downstream O2 sensors do to the performance of the car?? Where can I get this done? Reasonable price to program out downstream O2s??
I am looking to upgrade the car to about 475-500 HP (via Texas Speed Stage 1 Heads/Cam) will I have any issues with this proposed exhaust setup?
What does deleting the downstream O2 sensors do to the performance of the car?? Where can I get this done? Reasonable price to program out downstream O2s??
I am looking to upgrade the car to about 475-500 HP (via Texas Speed Stage 1 Heads/Cam) will I have any issues with this proposed exhaust setup?
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Re: 2002 Camaro Z28 Pacesetter Header Question
If you keep the cats, you keep the after-cat O2 sensors. The only purpose they serve is to verify the cats are in place and working. No significant effect on performance.
For a 500 (flywheel??) HP setup you need an upgraded cat-back system. You might want to look at the Mufflex 3-1/2" catback with a owmaster single out 30-series race muffler, or the SpinTech dual outlet muffler. If you want to stay 3", look at the SLP Loudmouth.
For a 500 (flywheel??) HP setup you need an upgraded cat-back system. You might want to look at the Mufflex 3-1/2" catback with a owmaster single out 30-series race muffler, or the SpinTech dual outlet muffler. If you want to stay 3", look at the SLP Loudmouth.
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Re: 2002 Camaro Z28 Pacesetter Header Question
Thank you for all the help. It has helped me a lot. I just bought my magnaflow catback exhaust.
I think I have decided to go with the American racing headers and catted y pipe in about a year. They are a little more expensive but from the reviews I have read, they seem to be good quality and little to no issues on install. All the original OEM exhaust equipment are easily bolted onto these headers.
I was thinking I should weld all the piping together except for the CATS just in case I need to change out the CATS in the future. I will use band clamps for these 4 pipe connections (2 on each cats).
Any thoughts??
I think I have decided to go with the American racing headers and catted y pipe in about a year. They are a little more expensive but from the reviews I have read, they seem to be good quality and little to no issues on install. All the original OEM exhaust equipment are easily bolted onto these headers.
I was thinking I should weld all the piping together except for the CATS just in case I need to change out the CATS in the future. I will use band clamps for these 4 pipe connections (2 on each cats).
Any thoughts??
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