soo then just straight up answers at the track leave in OD?? yes or no.....thanks alls im looking for is yes or no

 

How is that ricey? I do it all the time. If people ask me, I say its an auto. They get really mad when they lose to an AUTO domestic pos

 

I dont think it is ricy to simply give a rev. What is ricy is using neutral to make it look like you have a stick. If I am behind a stick car, I can tell by when the brake lights come on. There are ppl that try to fake it by using neutral. That is ricy to me. Why pretend?

 

Yes, OD is fine. When you've got it floored, your auto knows when to shift to maximize acceleration. No user input needed. You could leave it in D also, but it won't change the acceleration of your car.

And yeah, thinking autos are automatically pos's that are slow is quite stupid. I've got a guy here that thought he could beat me in his Ford Explorer of all things because I've got an AUTO. That is, until he was told otherwise, no need to race him to embarrass.

The whole auto vs. manual crap was taken from ricers, it seems, claiming that manuals are better in every way. It may be true for their cars, but that's because the powerband on their cars lasts from like 5k to 6k, they need lots of gears to avoid bogging. For cars like ours that can actually accelerate from 2k or 3k, the pros and cons of both are on more equal terms.

That said, I still would have preferred a manual. But it seems that GM thought otherwise because now the manual versions are priced significantly over their auto counterparts due to rarity.

 

i like my auto too...but i fell in love w/stick again after my buddy testdrove his MAch 1...wow if u think most guys at thedealer dont get on the cars then ur wrong lol....but they have their pros and cons......consistency is a major pro for automatics btu then u do have those who actaully know how to drive stick lol

 

Once again it all boils down to the driver for the M6 guys. I'll take my auto since I tend to get a little rowdy during races and would probably miss a gear.

Bottom line is the manual is faster- if you can drive it right.

 

I only downshift, just because I have really loud, mean exhaust. And when I'm cruisin with it in "3rd" it sounds way mean and kind of intimidating.

 

i put mine in "D" while racing

 

Hey Frank if you read my post you wouldve seen that the I said it was fine to shift the 700-R4 from a 1993, which, by your sig, is what you have.....My information comes from Carl Rossler, John Lingenfelter, Art Carr, Eric Shertz (Dyno Tech), Century Transmissions, and Locally Dr. Trans....No disrespect to you intended, but I think I'll follow the advice of Lingenfelter (RIP)...You guys can do what you want, but all of the above said that manually shifting a 4L60E causes a delay in line pressure rise, a delay in the shift, and will hurt the trans..I suppose there is about 100 combined years of transmission knowledge here...my computer is programmed to shift where I want it and it shifts harder, faster, and more consistent than I ever could anyway...
--Alan
P.S. It is my understanding that the 700-R4 (4L60) has the same internals, but is not electronically controlled...the 4L60 uses a TV cable, while the 4L60E does not...

 

Leave it in drive.
We are talking virgin transmissions (4L60E) hear, ones that have not been worked on and came from the factory.
Tell you what, put in car in 1st gear and take it up to the rev limiter, it will shift even though it's in first.

I would not suggest to manually shift the transmission unless some type of performance upgrade has been done to it.

Than you would be visiting Frank for a upgrade.

The most consistant way of drag racing at the track is leave it in Drive and have fun.

 

Um...Yes, I've been building racing 700's since I started 14 years ago...And 4L60E's since they came out in '93 (In trucks).

Just out of curiousity, what "clutch" are we trying to apply on the 1-2 shift? 2nd gear is a BAND! I've never seen ANY pressure rise delay through a pressure guage.
Maybe all these other guys aren't building them with the right parts. OH...I KNOW! ...The heavier slide springs I use the pumps keep the pressure up at the shift points.

You guys are right, maybe you should only shift your 4L60E manually if you have someone build it that knows what they're doing.

Frank

 

i was goign to type a long drawn out thing on the subject.. but you people seem to have your minds made up.

on a stock tranny up shifting does cause a drop i line pressure. i know someoen who builds all of RPMs trany they are in dallas. he was a hydralic proffesor for 20 years. and got into hot rods. he built his own tranny dyno. and if you put a stock 4l60e on it you will see a drop in pressure from up shifting. but when you get into built trannys everything changes if the person that built it new what they were doing. oh by the way the guy im refering to is the guy in the march issue of gm hightech. and he has sevaral f bodys in the 9s and low 10 and the tranny has run fine for obver 2 full season at the track. hes proved he knows waht hes doing.

there is know way i would up shift a stock a4.

 

Sorry...Maybe I should've broke it down.

Stock transmission:...Probably not a good idea to shift manually

Correctly built transmission:...Alright to shift manually.

I do a couple things in these transmissions to help the pressure instability.

Frank

 

Thats funny mine hits the rev limiter....

 

I understand that you can make them shift manually if they are modified to do so but This guy was talking about stock hence the correction.I know the 2 nd gear uses a band ,but the clutches still need pressure and if the stock tranny is up shifted manually it will tear these up prematuarly. I have no doubt you know your stuff frank But like I said I would hate to see any of the board members think its ok to shift there stock 4l60e