i had the same problem when i did my swap in my 95 z and it turned out the battery was dead. just a thought

 

neither the yellow or brown wire is getting any power to them and no power is getting to the starter at all. what should i do next.

thanks
Dustin

 

This probably should have been in the Drivetrain forum but since it was having to do with a no start condition, I left it here for ya. But, looks like you are still having problems. I'll move this over to the Drivetrain forum where somebody over there might be able to help you (may not read this forum).

 

Hmm, that strange as I have just got done doing the swap and I just jumped the yellow and brown wires togeather and my starter works fine.

 

AFAIK, those wires shouldn't have power running through them (or at least not until you turn the key to "start"). They're just part of a ground circuit with no direct feed to the starter. The only other thing i can think of is that you may have unhooked or damaged a wire coming down the steering shaft while installing the pedals. Besides unbolting the starter, i don't see any other wires you could have messed with. Did you take the starter completely out? (i just unbolted it to slide the flexplate/flywheel out/in, didn't take the wires off... didn't take the steering column out either, too much trouble IMO)

 

when i was testing the wires i turned the key to start. were do thoes yellow and brown wires lead to. which fuses would i have to check? if the fuses are still good what should i check next?

thanks
Dustin

 

It's been a while since i've been under the car, so i can't remember exactly where they go. One goes to the steering column and the other to the starter (or somewhere along the way to the ground terminal to the starter). Might just have to chase them down and see. There are three main places for fuses... one is the fuse panel on the side of the dash closest to the driver's side door, another is the power distribution box on the driver's side of the engine (relay box), and the other place is the fusible links that leave from the positive terminal connector you see on the passenger side wheelwell (the fusible links are the bundle of thick red wires that go from that block down the 1/4 panel beside the battery). Also, i remember that there are three wires that attach directly to the starter, check these. And recheck the wires and harnesses under at the steering column to make sure they're plugged all the way in. That's about all i can remember about the starter circuit.

[edit]- I just found my manual for the car and looking at the circuit diagram tells me this route in a 95 F-body:

1) there's a fusible link that leaves the terminal block i mentioned earlier (PS wheelwell, it's the red cap with the "+" symbol on it, lots of fusible links emmiting from it), then turns into a RED wire that goes directly to the key switch.

2) From there the YELLOW wire from the switch leaves, splits later into TWO YELLOW wires, and goes to two places: one to the gear selector (the wire we were talking about earlier), and the other goes directly to the theft deterent relay.{From the gear selector, the BROWN wire that you connect the YELLOW wire to also goes to the theft deterent relay}. From the relay, a yellow/black wire leaves and goes to the theft deterent module.

3) Another wire leaves from that relay also, the PURPLE wire leaves and goes to the starter. This completes the power route to the starter.

4) The BLACK wire that leaves the starter goes directly to the battery.

The bad thing is, i don't know where the theft deterent relay and module are. But since you were doing a conversion, the only parts of this circuit you would have messed with are at the steering column, the gear selector, and at the starter.

 

thank you for the infromation fast caddie. does any one eles no where the theft deterent relay and module are.

thanks dustin

 

ttt

 

i was wondering if i could bypass the theft deterent relay and module and hook the yellow wire to the purple wire? would that work or is that a stupid question?

 

That would probably work, just wire one or both of the yellow wires to the purple wire (probably won't matter which yellow wire you use since it's on a common circuit). I still don't think the theft deterent part is the problem, but try the by-pass and see.

 

Man, you are really struggling with this install arent you. I though you would have gotton this solved last week. Good luck to you man, hope you get this worked out.

 

thanks, i thought i would have it worked out last week too. the only problem we are having with the install is this wireing problem, we got everything else done the first night. I have only really had time to work on it two days and a couple of minutes here and there.