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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 06:14 PM
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I originally wanted a Star Spec III, but I was told to get the Mcleod Stree Twin w/Steel Flywheel... I believe the guy and trust him since he's a moderator and all that and has a sick LT1 himself, but I always love extra input. Would anyone else take the Street Twin over the Spec III?
Old Dec 3, 2003 | 06:26 PM
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And what about the chatters the Mcleod has that I had heard about... is that just a bad install? Or is that with all of them because of the type of clutch it is?
Old Dec 3, 2003 | 06:33 PM
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And what about the chatters the Mcleod has that I had heard about... is that just a bad install? Or is that with all of them because of the type of clutch it is?
I had some pretty serious problems with my McLeod single disc, but that was due to a bent disc (in shipping or the quality guy fell asleep or something). They gave me my money back for that, though. I haven't heard of many problems at all with the Street Twin. I have heard of some people having problems with the Specs, though. I'm not sure if they had a bad batch or switched processes or whatever, but for awhile there were a few problems. The Street Twin is tried and true from what I hear. So my answer is the Street Twin, but the question is do you have enough car for it?
Old Dec 3, 2003 | 06:45 PM
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Yea thats what i'm hearing about, that if you don't have the hp recommended which is like 600 almost... it hurts the clutch and wears down quicker, and i'm like half that, and don't plan on hitting the 400 mark, I want to a cruiser/street racer, and anything over 400hp is just way to bad on mpg... so then I guess I should go Spec... probably spec 2 though eh?
Old Dec 3, 2003 | 07:51 PM
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Well i don't think it will hurt the ST clutch if you only have lets say only 350rwhp as opposed to 600. The main issue you have to worry about with the ST is can the rest of your car handle it? The ST and 10 bolt = Time to get a 12 bolt. If is not easy on your drivetrain. I have the Mcleod Single disc. So far i like it a lot. It grabs great and i haven't had any problems with it yet. But i only have about 1,500 miles on it. But the ST is the best cluch out there.
Old Dec 3, 2003 | 10:05 PM
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So if I go the Mcleod Street Twin, I need a 12 bolt... L0L ok n/m then.

Then Star Spec 2 then... or something else without strengthening the rear up... Max hp i'm shooting for is 350... 400 is a long shot, but 350 I think is what i'll be closest too. Any suggestions?
Old Dec 3, 2003 | 10:07 PM
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The rumors' are not true.. If you have the money and want the best clutch out there for the LT1.. Then the Street Twin is the way to go.. Even on Stock car's although most say overkill.. but in reality it just might be the last clutch you ever buy.. its got twice the surface area than any other clutch therefore tending to be a lil' more grippy but nothing like the on/off nature of the SPEC"s which i have had "4" of.and quite franky didn't have too good of a exp. with them.... I have had the mcleod for about 1.5 years or so now on my bolt on car and absolutley love it.. Another bonus is if per se it does let go it only costs' about 350ish to get it completely rebuilt and balanced where as other clutches you have to buy a new setup for 400+.. So its upto you.. Its the last clutch i'll ever buy for mine..
Old Dec 3, 2003 | 10:08 PM
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So if I go the Mcleod Street Twin, I need a 12 bolt... L0L ok n/m then.

Then Star Spec 2 then... or something else without strengthening the rear up... Max hp i'm shooting for is 350... 400 is a long shot, but 350 I think is what i'll be closest too. Any suggestions?
Oh Yeah.. forgot yes you will need to beef up the rest of your drivetrain.. It will break everything behind it..
Old Dec 3, 2003 | 10:31 PM
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So I can't install the Street Twin without a stronger rear, and... what else? So then I guess it wouldn't be worth it for me?

What should I get then... I will have a full exhaust, intake, and filter... thats about it. I don't plan on more than 350hp tops, and with those mods, 350 in way out of its league. But I do wish to install a cam... so what clutch should I get? A Star Spec 2 I keep saying because that seems within reach, but i'm not familiar with any other companies... help please?
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 05:51 AM
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If your not careful you will eat your rear end in a heartbeat.. But if you can refrain from 4th gear power shift's you should be fine with it.. otherwise just go w/a amcleod single disc and that should hold you over just fine
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So I can't install the Street Twin without a stronger rear, and... what else? So then I guess it wouldn't be worth it for me?

What should I get then... I will have a full exhaust, intake, and filter... thats about it. I don't plan on more than 350hp tops, and with those mods, 350 in way out of its league. But I do wish to install a cam... so what clutch should I get? A Star Spec 2 I keep saying because that seems within reach, but i'm not familiar with any other companies... help please?
Well I don't think you will break anything if you are running street tires. I would think that your tires would spin before anything broke. To me, it seems like you'd need a decent hook in order to put the full load on your rear end and bust it. So if you're going to run DRs or slicks, I'd beef up your rear. I was told by a McLeod tech that you if add a blower or nitrous that the single disc won't hold it. I'd go with the ST, but that's just me. You can strengthen your current rear end using a solid pinion spacer and those TA girdles.
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 09:26 AM
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The single disk is great for the daily driver / every once in awhile drag strip car.. but it by no means is a hot lapper.. it'll slip pretty good when it get's really hot.. But is a great clutch for the street..
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 10:52 AM
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Launching is what kills the rears, but with the ST really fast 2-3 3-4 shifts will kill it to. Even with street tires. It may not go as fast, but it will go. Hey illusional how many runs at the strip to you think someone could go with the single disc not slipping on a 350rwhp car?
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 12:04 PM
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Hey illusional how many runs at the strip to you think someone could go with the single disc not slipping on a 350rwhp car?
McLeod says their single disc is rated for 450 hp, for what that's worth. How many runs you can get out of it depends mostly on your style. Your burnout technique comes into play, plus do you slip the clutch out of the hole, or do you pop it? Do your tires spin coming off the line, or are you getting a decent hook? I think the biggest thing is giving your clutch time to cool down between runs. The hotter it gets, the more it expands, so the harder it is to completely disengage. That means when you shift gears you may still be slipping the clutch a little, even though your left foot is on the floor. Go out and have fun with it, but remember clutches are like brakes, they are supposed to wear (and some wear faster than others, just like brake pads). HTH
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 12:55 PM
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So with the power I should be running, and the things I want to do... cruising around with a race more now than later... L0L

I mean, I am not going to race it constantly... but I will get on it and let the horses live freely. But I won't drop the clutch and do sick burnouts... thats not my thing, never was. I will race the jackass on the road with his **** ricer and thinks he's bad... but I don't plan on that happening more than 1-2 times a day at most... I doubt that will even happen 1 time a day once I've had the car for longer than a few weeks or so because i'll be tired of wasting my time/gas ya know? So I will be sorta abusing it... but not totally... I know i'm a bit silly, but I'm sure they're others that do the same... anyway, the Mcleod will do that no problem? Or should I go to the Star Spec 2? Which I know that holds about the same amount of hp... thanks



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